Pokerstars PA Cameron purelegacy77 Lane is a cheater
What’s up everyone, I am Kyle Lucca and I currently play in the PA market under screen names Bellfort_J0rdan and T0nySoprano. I used to play in NJ as J0rdanBellfort. I am writing this post because Cameron “purelegacy77” Lane has been caught cheating through the GTOwizard fairplay check tool by me and many others. I will send all of the evidence below.
For anyone unfamiliar with the GTO Wizard fairplay check tool, read about it here:
Since the cheating accusations against UrNighmare from two weeks ago, I have been utilizing GTO Wizards fairplay check tool to look up many hands against all kinds of players in the PA pool. Since then, UrNighmare has been cleared by Pokerstars and his account reinstated, all of the accusations against him were a result of many false positives in the GTO Wizard fairplay check. The tool at the time had an extremely high false positive rate before they added more details to the hand lookup like cash/MTT, pot size, and positions. (A false positive means an identical or similar board having been looked up at the same time as a hand that was played, but with different parameters indicating that it wasn't done by anyone involved in the played hand)
Once GTO Wizard updated their tool, false positives became EXTREMELY unlikely on the flop, and probably just about impossible to match a turn or river. Which brings us to my investigation on purelegacy77. I played a short session with him on the morning of 10/4 and I was looking up random hands played between me and other regs, or reg v reg. I pulled two matches on legacy on just the flop with matching hand parameters. This was when Wizard first updated the fairplay tool to include more parameters, and I wasn’t sure yet if false positives were still possible. I decided to just watch legacy play some tables of higher stakes and look up any notable hand. It didn’t take long to get a match to the turn, here is the hand:
This is when I decided to reach out to DidYouNotHearMe (SRV on discord) and get the hand history from him and tell him what was going on. It was obvious after a couple more turn matches that he was 100% searching up the hands, it was just a question of the accuracy of the timestamp on the lookup.
At the time, I considered legacy a close friend of mine and I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in speaking with SRV and my NJ poker friends saying maybe he is searching the hands up IMMEDIATELY after they complete as a study mechanism. Legacy quit his session not long after these two matches and SRV and we decided to just keep it to ourselves and search up more hands later before freaking out and reporting or telling everyone. The fairplay check tool only goes back one week for hand lookups. Legacy had been in Vegas on vacation for the previous week so the only hand history I had with him was the morning and afternoon of 10/4, not much of a sample to find more hands. Later that night legacy logged back in and we collected some more matches:
This is when I decided to test the theory of him looking hands up immediately after they complete. I watched him play a hand and I searched the fairplay check as it was going on…. And I got a match. I clicked enter when the turn was dealt and before the river came, and pulled this match. This hand took place at 0:37 on 10/5.
And then just for good measure I plugged in the river as well:
(Mackdaddy420 is DidYouNotHearMe)
Hand played at around 0:39 on 10/5
Here is one played at a 5K game against iamsmirk at 1:50 on 10/5, another hand I clicked enter on the turn while it was still taking place and got a match.
This was the point of the investigation that I was literally sick to my stomach as I watched him cheat another friend of mine Smirk in a ****ing 5k game!!!!!!!! At the time it was KILLING me wanting to tell smirk what was going on, but I knew that smirk was good friends with legacy and wasn’t sure if he would freak out on legacy after being told he was cheated, leading to legacy withdrawing all of his funds from his account. At this point me and SRV decided it was crucial to report him and keep it to ourselves so that his account gets locked and investigated, and I can only hope that the operators will refund anyone that was cheated out of money.
Here is a couple more hands although I’m sure everyone is getting the idea what is going on here:
No river match, but that’s because the money was all in on the turn LOL
Here is the last hand I will send. At this point I was quitting the tables immediately every time legacy sat down, costing me money but I will not play with a cheater. Just to see if legacy had any resemblance of a soul left in his body I wanted to see if he would personally cheat me, someone who was texting him all week asking him about his Vegas trip, and texting/discord messaging him thousands of messages over the months since I joined the Pennsylvania player pool. I thought he was a good friend of mine. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt though many PA players hated him for his constant **** talking in the chat and his terrible table etiquette. I believe me, Iamsmirk, and MasterEdge were his only friends in the community, and the above hands are proof that he cheated all 3 of us, including smirk at a ****ing 5k game. So here it is, the last hand I will ever play against legacy:
This year legacy quickly rose through the stakes of 50NL to 5KNL, constantly bragging and boasting that he was never coached and was confident by this time next year he will be the best in the state. I will not share any of my private texts or messages with him, but that is the gist of what he was always talking about. I estimate legacy has made anywhere from $100,000 to $200,000 this year and have no idea when he started cheating. Here is one discord message he sent in a PA cash regs discord before he deleted his account all the way back in JANUARY. As far as I’m concerned, cheating in poker is no different than robbing somebody and it blows my mind there is no criminal prosecution.
It is a lesson learned that nobody can be trusted with so much money at stake. As poker players we become numb to the massive amounts of money we throw around, but we all have to be more cautious. There are always going to be scumbags among us, I really doubt legacy was the only cheater in our player pool. Everyone needs to be doing their best to fairplay check big hands and we need to pressure the operators to provide a safer playing environment.
Legacy was cheating almost every single 3BP and 4BP he played against another reg. Who knows how long it was going on for, and I have no idea how Pokerstars or WSOP does not have a system in place to catch such blatant disgusting cheating. It really sucks that as professional players we have to play the game, study the game, and now police the game to make sure we are not being cheated for thousands of dollars. Unfortunately we have to do our best self policing for the time being and maybe try to work with the operators/GTO Wizard to provide input for a better system. For anyone trying to save some time in self policing, the pattern with legacy as I said above was searching up every single 3BP and 4BP against other regs, and I assume other cheaters probably follow a similar pattern.
Legacy was also outcasted from the Starcraft 2 community for cheating in the past, here is the links to an interview about that and his liquipedia page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr96LU5l...
Legacy’s Pokerstars account was locked on 10/6 and under investigation and I can only hope WSOP did the same thing but I don’t have any confirmation. I also find it absurd that the sites never tell us the results of these investigations. I think the only way forward is to have some sort of poker blacklist of players that have been caught cheating so they are never allowed to play anywhere again. It is ridiculous he can just go sign up on ACR or Global and get right back to it cheating people out of their money.
We all put our blood sweat and tears into this game. I am optimistic that the future of online poker is bright as it seems GTO Wizard has a strong commitment to game integrity. I believe some of the operators have partnered with GTO Wizard and they are working on some sort of backend solution to checking hands using mass data analysis. If any GTO Wizard staff or operator is reading this, there needs to be an emphasis placed on searching the 3BPs and 4BPs reg vs reg. If their current systems are just random samples of hands looking at accuracy of play, someone like Legacy is going to slip through the cracks. He was cheating in the most difficult highest EV spots, and playing them damn accurately, but playing very inaccurately in the small EV spots so he is not going to be flagged for playing very accurately overall. If anyone is savvy enough with any poker tracking software I would be curious what % of hands someone VPIPs are reg vs reg 3bp or 4bps, I would assume it is a fairly small %.
What is going to happen when the next competitor to GTO Wizard comes along and says guess what guys, we don’t give a single **** about game integrity and will never work with any operators or give out your data? It will be the end of online poker if these operators don’t get it together. We should all be grateful for the role GTO Wizard is currently taking in terms of game integrity but it is going to have to come down to the operators to catch these guys for the future of online poker.
Alright I've wasted enough time on this, back to the tables. GL everyone and if anyone has any ideas or thoughts about the current state of online poker and cheating please leave them down below.
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In the original post is that a hand match on WSOP? (the 'purelegacy' vs 'MackDaddy420' screen shot.)
Assuming this was reported to WSOP but he's still playing everyday on there? It's clear now he 100% cheated on there and it's extremely likely he's still cheating and will continue to cheat. If he's been reported maybe it's a good idea for some of the players to insist on talking to someone higher up in WSOP support if these reports are only being seen by first level employees. If there's a matched hand that should be enough to ban him from the site.
It's disappointing to see him playing. I believe with a little effort and work on WSOP's support side they should be able to find some evidence of cheating and ban him.
It seems like WSOPdotcom has finally banned him or at the very least suspended his account
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nice work boys
Its kind of crazy to see the amount of outcry in this thread over this one player, all because you can see him inputting the data to GTO Wiz. There are hundreds if not thousands of players doing this in much more sophisticated ways using purpose built systems with no fair play checks. Judging from how obvious this player made all of this, the chances of players doing it with a little more sophistication getting caught must be next to zero.
Its kind of crazy to see the amount of outcry in this thread over this one player, all because you can see him inputting the data to GTO Wiz. There are hundreds if not thousands of players doing this in much more sophisticated ways using purpose built systems with no fair play checks. Judging from how obvious this player made all of this, the chances of players doing it with a little more sophistication getting caught must be next to zero.
Yea Ogi is way smarter than PL
