2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***

When did you get this Wyndham Card? Was it awhile ago? It seems they may have closed a loophole recently. There's some new language now that you must have "earned Tier Status" (i.e. 40 nights at a Wyndham property) to Status Match at Caesars. Not sure if accurate or not. Trying to find out.

From website:

"You must have earned Tier Status with your current loyalty program in order for your status to be matched. Caesars Rewards will not grant status to WR members who came into the WR program from a tier match promotion with other programs or who previously had recent Caesars Rewards status that was about to expire".

Customer service lady at Wyndham said policy changed. Still trying to find out if true.

I think the card counts as "earning Wyndham", you just can't take some other status, match to Wyndham, then use that to match Caesars. I have the Wyndham Business card which gives me Wyndham Diamond, which I just successfully matched to Caesars Diamond two weeks ago.

I’m sure you’re right under most circumstances, but Dr. Meh said he goes to WSOP once a year and makes no other Caesars properties plays, yet he got his room for $200 for the week, and now $160. That doesn’t seem like it would necessarily be based on the calculation you mentioned. (Not disagreeing with you at all. Just saying maybe this hack can get you excellent comps even without the normal required play.)

For comparison sake, I’m checking into Paris on 6/21 and staying for eight nights, and I’m paying $1700. If getting the WR gets me to Diamond status and I can save something like $1500 on hotel, that’s obviously well worth the $95 annual fee. Then again, just being able to jump the cash lines for the week would be worth the $100. The waits for cash games during WSOP have been in the hours for the past few years if you get there any time after like noon.

I did some digging online and it looks like you can pretty much fake your way into the business card even if you don’t actually own a business. For those interested, this article walks you though how to apply even if you don’t own a business, and it claims you don’t have to lie or break any rules:

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credi...

I’m going to apply in the next couple of days and I’ll post here how it goes.

I haven't played Caesars for a long time and just logged in and see 8 nights at Paris like you said on those dates overnight on 2 Fridays with 2 Queens $1402 after resort and taxes.

At Harrahs with 1 Queen $1068.

But it's not your status that changes it just your player history.
They code you at different levels.

I have diamond elite and my friend has gold. We have the same exact room rates.a friend has just regular diamond and has cheaper/comped rooms than me despite my status.

Hmm. Seems odd because I only go once a year but I’m pleased with whatever algorithm they use.

15 hours a week? If you think the internet is that slow, you must still be using dial up. Or some archaic Morse code internet type thing.

Literally takes me about 3 seconds to check.

I got mine a year ago and just matched again a couple weeks ago.

Are you sure you’re looking up the Wyndham Business Earner card? Or just the Wyndham Earner card? It needs to be the business one.

I know they closed some loopholes with Founders Card and maybe regular Earners but the Business Earners is still good to go.

Yea but you have a good ADT it's not the status.

With Wyndham, you have to match your status to Caesars every year. Before I matched this year, I was Gold status and wasn’t getting the rates I’m getting now that I matched to Diamond.

I’m not saying you’re wrong about ADT but I definitely think the status you have makes a difference. Maybe not a huge one but a difference.

Not sure if srs

I just rebooked at $1,600 all in. Couldn’t get the $1400 you did, but you saved me $100. I guess it pays to check back from time to time. Thanks for doing that!

Dr. Meh, are you playing anything besides poker at Caesars properties during WSOP that would boost your ADT?

Not really. I don’t understand craps and find BJ boring. Don’t play roulette, either. Once I bust out of a tournament, I’ll sometimes put $20 in a machine but that’s about it. I played in a cash game one night last year for a few hours but that’s it.

If you email GG and ask for a one time increased deposit limit then they will ask you a few questions and for some bank statements and quite likely let you do a one off bigger deposit if you can prove that you can afford it. I've done that a few times and it is mainly just box ticking for the regulators IMO. Otherwise I might stick to the live sats in Vegas. GL

Dr Meh, Black Aces and I seem to have similar play styles and acquired Diamond status thru non play methods (FC for me) - My hotel Comp nights are definitely impacted by the Diamond status BUT BUT BUT they vary like mad on when you are looking at the Web site OR even when You call the Horseshoe direct. I have had EXCELLENT success booking online then Tweaking those rates by calling the Shoe direct. Black Aces got a killer deal at Paris and you've seen Dr Meh's posts. Others like Riverph7 who is willing to move around basically stays for free for extended periods of time.

Right now PERSONALLY If I was booking a room I can get More Comped nights at Paris and a lower total bill than I can at the Horseshoe which makes zero sense (All are a LOT higher than I am currently paying anyway).

NONE of us absolutely understand the exact "why's" of the deals we get or why they seem to change so much from one day to the next we just play the game the Caesars is dealing. PERSISTENCE and continuing to check seems to be the winning formula for Room deals is the best advice anyone can really give.

Totally agree. And my rates for Paris are fairly lower than Horseshoe at the moment which is strange since last year, HS rates were lower than Paris.

As an aside, this will be my first time staying at Paris for WSOP. At HS last year, the elevator was right at the entrance to WSOP which made life easy. I went to the Paris side a couple times but is it much more inconvenient staying there than at HS for WSOP purposes? I’m wondering if the demand for HS is higher now for WSOP just for ease of access purposes. But it’s not like Paris is difficult or far to get to so I don’t know if an extra 2-3 minute walk influences people to go HS instead or not.

rates fluctuate a lot.

i've had times Caesars is cheaper than all of the other properties even though it's usually the most expensive.

Last Year it seemed I played events more on the Paris side than the Shoe side while I was staying at the Horseshoe. Now that the Jubilee Tower at Horseshoe has become the Versailles Tower at Paris it's even more of a crap shoot for your walk even changing. The "additional" rooms that are now Paris may have led to more deals to increase occupancy from that Casino. I just know its 90 days away now and the other Casinos are beginning to release their schedules so I get to waste a whole lot of time fitting my event schedule together to optimize my preferred play.

When thinking about convenience, you should think about more than in which venue you are likely to be playing. Horseshoe does not have anything resembling a coffee shop. (Guy Fieri's Flavortown Sports Kitchen has a limited breakfast menu.) Paris has Cafe Americano. What good is it going to do you to stay in the Shoe and play your tournament in the Shoe if you are going to cross over to Paris for breakfast and back?

ETA: Another reason to hustle for Diamond/7 Stars status: line cutting at the restaurants.

Just a quick update: Even though I don't own a business, I just successfully applied for the Wyndham Earners Business card that we've been discussing.

The card will arrive via mail in five to seven days. Annoyingly, it looks like I can't set my account up online until the physical card gets here--most cards will let you use the card online, set up your account, etc. before the physical card arrives--so I won't be able to report on how it goes linking it with my Caesars account and getting the upgrade to Diamond...or on whether that results in a better room rate at Paris during the WSOP. Once the card gets here, I'll post on how all of that goes.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you!

Don't mean to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the matching (it's either getting wyndham diamond or the actual match from wyndham to caesar's), it says it takes 2-8 weeks. I wish you the best in terms of timing and maybe calling and pestering them will help you, but getting diamond 8 weeks from now and trying to book would stress me out.

You can book now and still be exempt from resort fees, valet parking, 100 free meal etc as long as it is activated before the end of your stay. You MAY miss out on some room comp nights or some reduced rates...the diamond status impact on those are unclear from multiple posts on room rates. But it still worth the effort...book it now and sort out the details later is the best approach.

Some good ideas in here. If I’m understanding you correctly, you’re saying keep the room I already have booked for $1600 for eight nights. As long as the diamond status is activated by the end of my trip, they won’t charge me the resort fees. Is that correct? Even that would be worth the annual fee, let alone the meal credit and the ability to jump the cash lines at Caesars properties.