The first human rights violation in the poker world
The first human rights violation in the poker world
Becoming a professional poker player was not something I thought I'd be growing up. I started playing at 18 with my friends and I was consistently beating them, and I slowly became more immersed in the game as time went by. It wasn't until I was 22 that I realized I could be a pro, and by the time I was 24 in 2017 I was playing full time. The allure of this game has always been that I can set my own hours and routine, work as little or as much as I want, without a formal boss, without having to answer to any person, and without having any superiors. I've always taken a lax approach to the game, don't work myself too hard, and strive to enjoy what life has to offer. I'm certain I'm not the best player, but also far from the worst. I've always had big ambitions in poker however I go at a slow pace and am happy with the little I have accomplished in the almost 8 years I've been playing full time although I have no doubts I have a long way to go. The freedoms it gave me were always one of the draws of playing full time for me, and it pains me that I have to make this thread today as some of these freedoms have been taken away from me by people who have self appointed themselves to positions of authority in a game that should always be pure and fair but has in recent years taken a turn towards elitism.
Here is a link to a thread about me on another forum. I recommend you skip over this part and read through my account of what transpired first however.
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showth...
Don't know what to say. Not something I'd do again but also definitely not as it has been reported. I've maintained and will continue to maintain my innocence and a proper and thorough investigation will exonerate me from wrongdoing and find that I have been wronged. Unfortunately, I have not been afforded that right. Every tactic in the book has been used to keep me quiet, and make my life a living hell for the past 475 days. I've been denied a chance to speak in my defense, I've been denied any form of due process, I've been restricted from doing my job, I've been isolated and blackballed from everybody in the industry, I may have a form of post traumatic stress disorder, and no matter what happens I'll never ever be the same again.
In short form (this is the most I could condense this there is plenty I had to leave out) I dm'd one of poker's influencers on twitter a lot of times. I was under the impression she was a willing participant. There was nothing to suggest otherwise and I have evidence to support she was a willing participant for whatever reason wether it was for her own entertainment or to bait me. She later doxxed me on her page to over 20k people. She lied about key details and leads 10's of thousands of people to believe I'm a schizophrenic and that I'm violent, neither of which are true. People calling for me to be hurt, crazies saying I need to be institutionalized against my will, she puts on a melodramatic performance including saying she needs armed home security guards. My reputation is destroyed and its clear that this person is in a position of power over me and has twisted things to sound like something they're not. Following this I started to have symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder which have persisted to today. It was bad the first few months now it comes and goes. I'm happy to say I've never felt better than recently however it comes back in the form of flashbacks and the like from time to time and longterm I'm not sure what it will be like. I have invested a lot of time effort and money into my mental game so that I know when to play and when not to play. I was unable to play much in the following couple of months and it began a snowball effect on my life that has cost me a ton of money and I am sure without the support I had would have put me on the street.
About a month after this happened I started to get attention from a few anonymous accounts. I talked with one of them via DM, for a couple days. They described themselves as a psychopath who enjoys tormenting people. Once I disengaged contact with this account, they started to dox me. There were over a dozen accounts working together (retweeting one another) for almost two months. Whenever I'd block one there would be another. And it didn't matter if I did because they still did a lot of damage. They'd routinely tag poker accounts and post whatever they wanted about me. Among the things they did was make fake death and rape threats towards the influencer that doxxed me (photoshopped using my profile pic and name to make it look like i tweeted rape and death threats that i didnt), and had them spread around, which people of course believed. They frequently encouraged me to end my life. They would comment a link to the thread where I was doxxed by her, on every one of my posts. They even were doing this to random people that followed me, and also whenever I commented on stuff that had nothing to do with poker. They frequently posted antisemitic stuff on my page. They'd post random Las Vegas addresses saying that I lived there. Might be a few other things I am forgetting. It made my twitter account completely unusable. This went on from around May 6th 2023 to June 26th 2023. These accounts (I concluded that it was at least 2 people working together) left a trail however.
I have a smoking gun of one person's involvement who happens to be a big influencer in the twitter poker celebrity world (>98%). I have a reasonable suspicion of another's involvement who also happens to be a big influencer (let's say 50/50), and that this same thing was done to two other people who were isolated and vulnerable. I have motive, intent, speech patterns, everything to make a reasonable to strong case of who did this. NOBODY has been willing to even take a look. Stay with me because next part is where it gets a little crazy.
June 6th I walked into WSOP to play the 1500 6max which is one of my favorite events. Play until right before dinner break, bust out and head home. Some time later (might have been June 15th?) I get a note on my door that I have legal papers that need to be served to me. I didn't think anything of it, and went in to pick them up on June 20th. I pick up the papers, and sure enough she has filed a report with a fabricated story, claiming that I was stalking her in the WSOP on the 6th. This happens to be the 2nd report she has filed against me, the first one was denied, the second with the fabricated story was approved to be heard by a judge. I happened to have a few eye witness accounts from reputable players that contradict part of her story however the way she wrote it I'm not sure what those are worth. Picked up the documents on June 20th and the hearing was scheduled for June 28th so I had less than a week to get a lawyer and prepare for this. Meanwhile I rushed to message a few of who I thought were trustworthy members of the poker twitter influencers to show them that she lied and to try and get some support, as I was not in shape to pay thousands of dollars for a great lawyer. I didn't get any support, however I did happen to get something out of it, because shortly after I privately shared this story with these "poker celebrities", one of the anon accounts was helpful enough to inform me that "I have no case against her" and threatened to murder me if I didn't keep my mouth shut! What a coincidence that they threatened me a day before it took place! Based on who I thought it was and the network and resources available to them I took it as a credible threat on my life.
I wasn't too worried about the hearing, I figured I'd be able to explain what happened and I'd get a fair hearing and a fair outcome. Nope. As soon as she opened her mouth it was waterworks, and one lie after another, after another. I'm not sure if any one of the things she'd said was fact and I am sure it altered the outcome because there were multiple ways it could have been ruled. The judge did not ask me anything, I did not get a chance to speak a word, and she granted her the most restrictive protective order for the most amount of time it could have been granted, that does not reasonably allow me to play cash games, and attempts but fails to make a stipulation where I can play tournaments. Here's the kicker for her: if it's found that I violated it somehow I'd get sent to prison for up to 5 years. So I figured at this point, I'm screwed. If she decides to lie and say I've violated the order I have no way of defending myself. I'm a nobody with no network or resources to fight this and it's based on a preponderence of evidence. Basically, if she claims I violated the order, whoever the judge believes wins. Coincidentally, after the ruling was made in her favor, the anonymous accounts abruptly stopped.
At this point, few days before the main event, I figured I was screwed. Three days later, July 1st, I got a call from the Wynn informing me that I'd been trespassed. I went to the horseshoe's security office to inquire with them and find out if I'd been trespassed there also. I was told that they'd been informed of the protective order but that I was not trespassed and as long as I dont cause any trouble I'd be fine. Despite that, I thought there was no way to protect myself from this, with the death threat, and the leverage had from the PO, there were people were really out to get me, and I decided to leave the country for three months and keep my head down for the remainder of the year.
Fast forward to a week ago, I bought myself a body cam and I was selling to the 2024 main event. I was having trouble selling where I was always able to sell in the past. I'm not a crusher but I have decent enough results where I should be able to sell 1.1, but all the big buyers passed on me. My reputation is more or less pristine outside of this incident. I'm not a scammer, I'm not a cheater, and I've never welched on a debt in the almost decade I've been in poker, and I'm honest to a fault. By a miracle I was able to sell out at the last moment on day 2D. I literally ran around the strip the entire afternoon collecting cash and made it to the registration window at 4:49PM just minutes before late reg was over. The cashier counts my money, takes my ID and players card and disappears claiming she needs to verify me. I'm waiting and waiting and assured that I was going to have a seat and everything was fine. A whole 30 mins pass and in come three security people informing me that they made a decision to trespass me from all Caesar's properties. I did not do anything wrong, I was a little jumpy because I had cut it close with the late reg time but I wasn't doing anything that warranted it. They refused to tell me why, I emailed them and they also did not tell me why, just that they don't review trespasses until at least a year goes by.
It seems like these influencers care about nothing above their self interests but act like they are gatekeepers of a game that is pure and fair. They act like they care about scammers and cheaters and right and wrong, but when it comes to something that might make them look bad as a whole it doesn't matter. The person who accused me has been outted in the past by an ex of hers as a thief but there is no fuss about that and this person has gotten every opportunity imaginable in this industry and was allowed to destroy every aspect of my life while everybody looked the other way. I've reached out to at least 15 different people trying to get a fair look at my side of the story. They either ignore me, block me, and on 1 occasion was told they don't want to get involved. I can only imagine the type of nonsense and gossip that has been spread in the background about me and contributed to my reputation sabotage, disintegration of my career, and to my isolation from the wider social community. I've been pushed out of twitter where I spent a lot of time and enjoyed participating in some of the discourse, I've been banned from Caesar's and Wynn, I cannot reasonably play cash anywhere in Las Vegas. Regardless of whether you think I'm innocent or not, this is done in a deliberate manner to sabotage reputations and lives, and it often ends with guys killing themselves. I've been isolated from everything and everybody I worked to be around for the past decade, I've been turned into a leper and I feel as I'm in solitary confinement for over a year. It is a slow form of murder and it's common for women like this to turn everybody against you, spread their false version of reality, exaggerate, cause hysteria, and make the lives of powerless people like myself unlivable.
Save your breathe if you are here to tell me that I deserve what's happening to me, or that I need to let it go, or that I have a victim's mentality. After spending a few months in a group with other men victim to similar false, and exaggerated claims and reading some of the things these guys go through, all I can say is save your time. A lot of them end up committing suicide, a lot of them end up homeless and estranged from everybody they know. What I am going through is torture in a literal sense. I feel as if I have been in solitary confinement for an entire year, with no right to speak in my defense, no right to due proccess, an open pass for people to discriminate against me and treat me however they want. I've been booted from WSOP and Wynn, and I cannot reasonably do my job of 8 years. Nothing I did justifies this. This is a clear depraved indifference for my life, and a pervasive pattern of neglect and abuse. The system happens to give these women a ridiculous amount of power over others, and by rule it will act as a magnet to bad actors and power abusers who know exactly how to cause the most amount of damage. It is not representative of an entire gender and I would not like this to turn into a gender discourse. What happens to men like me is a human rights violation and it should not happen to anybody ever. This needs to stopped somehow because I'm not going to shut up about it and I believe these people can hurt me worse.
The only thing I am here to ask of this forum, is cooperation, in verifying what has happened to me. If it is ok, I'll take as many of you as is possible, the more reputable you are the better, but anybody, and everybody is welcome to DM me and verify the claims I am making. I can't just start dropping names on here so I'd like for this to be done in private until there is a mutual agreement on who is involved and what can be verified and what can't.
I've tried and messaged at least 15 people in the industry to try and get my side looked at to no avail. Was lucky enough to have Jungleman open his DM's to report nefarious activities within the industry, and so I've got the support of Jungleman if I can have my claims verified, so it would go a long way. I have had no doubt since day 1 that I am innocent, that I have been wronged far worse than what you can imagine and that some of the people involved are influential figures in the poker industry and that there is a broad awareness of what happened to me while many have looked the other way. Don't need anything but to be treated like a human being. I've been denied that for over a year and as irreperable of a situation as this is I am going to get fair treatment and people will be held accountable.
Was wondering what happened to ya. Seems you split after a temp-ban, I’ve had a few myself over the years lol.
Manner reappears a year after his own thread was locked. I was hoping for an epilogue update from his phone calls to the Justice Department!
Yeah that’s what happened, got a one week ban for something silly by a softie volunteer and decided to take my talents elsewhere
Will exit stage left after Final Table is over. Plan on coming back next year at this time. Instead of Shark week it will be Scotch week
Hope you have been well!
funny thing is niko does share his id in those text walls and in it is a NY State drivers license...
not saying you're him, but if he were to post his driver's license as such it's be the same as yours
ahh, my pony is slow, this has already been addressed
Well, to be fair, I only really stop in NVG when I'm bored at work, so definitely don't know everything going on. However, I needed to see how someone's "human rights" were somehow being violated because of poker. Still waiting.
A woman by the name of Melissa’s human rights were violated when a man refused to respect her right to privacy and freedom after encountering her in the poker world.
Don't know why the OP became obsessed with this person and was sending her DM's in the first place. It is pretty serious to get trespassed from two properties without actually doing something in either. At this point the OP is in the casino surveillance book. It used to be Griffin but they aren't around anymore. I don't know the name of the company that replaced them. Not only is he in the book but he has a flash alert issued. These are the daily or weekly electronic bulletins with photos of patrons to be on the lookout for. They are sent to all subscribers in the country. So let's say he were to go to properties other than Caesars, MGM or Wynn. There is a good chance the same would occur.
A woman by the name of Melissa’s human rights were violated when a man refused to respect her right to privacy and freedom after encountering her in the poker world.
Yeah, that's actually true. Usually you read about a human rights violation and the person or entity is committing or committed them without any sort of repercussions.
Niko clearly did the crime but can't do the time.
You can tell neckline is different too; but again; last post on this. If you need further proof; contact a mod and ask them. They log user IP and MAC address. I'm done with this ridiculousness, but at the same time, I can understand the confusion because of him having a NY ID as well. I thought he was a vegas resident due to him saying he got kicked out of vegas venues.
I've personally reported your post and asked mods to verify we're different people through MAC and IP addresses. You're bor
I don't know if other users are trolling or if you've convinced them that you're not Niko. You need to get offline. Go for a walk.
Websites don't harvest your MAC address btw. There is no reason for the router to send that info. They will have a user-agent at most, which will match Niko's 😀.
I don't understand why the woman in this situation after receiving about the fifth message from a guy like this wouldn't send him something like: "I'm blocking you. Do not send me any more messages, I will not receive them.", and then block him? Why would she subject herself to this continuing harassment?
I don't understand why the woman in this situation after receiving about the fifth message from a guy like this wouldn't send him something like: "I'm blocking you. Do not send me any more messages, I will not receive them.", and then block him? Why would she subject herself to this continuing harassment?
she did block him, that's one of many burner accounts he made just to message her
she never saw those messages until she screencapped and shared, in order to stop this very thing (and spam) twitter tends to bury messages from unknown and fresh accounts deep under a few not so easily seen layers
if you go there you probably have a good dozen crypto scams in that double secret inbox
twitter doesn't usually give a "hey you probably have a stalker or scammer messaging you, you want to check it out" for good reason
The punishment doesn't fit the crime unless someone has further proof I'm not seeing. Is it wrong? Yes. Is it wrong on a level for restraining order? Only if she asked him to stop directly (through text or in person).
My opinion: If he's less than 27 or so; he gets a free pass for being a loser and messaging her that many times. If he's much older than that; the restraining order should likely stand; as he should know better.
I'm way more lenient with this if he's younger than if he's older.
Cyber stalking is taken seriously because it routinely leads to IRL stalking
why you gotta be a ****in weirdo bro
use this as a learning experience: just be normal and don't do weird ****, go to therapy, don't talk to strangers about weird ****
Don't worry, no one knows who you are or cares, so this won't stick for that long
and quit posting from multiple accounts, it's yet another weirdo move
This thread is why we need to bring back bullying in schools. It keeps in line a lot of potentially weird people from doing creepy things. Also her guy friends should have stepped in and scared this idiot straight.
Holy your that crazy psychopath stalker of Melissa's, you are a reason why every woman/female should be allowed to open carry a gun
Lmfao. Oh boy just catching up from my last comment back on page 2. I knew if the Mods left this thread open it would deliver and deliver huge. This would make a good Netflix movie.
Cheers!!!
Lmfao. Oh boy just catching up from my last comment back on page 2. I knew if the Mods left this thread open it would deliver and deliver huge. This would make a good Netflix movie.
Cheers!!!
You know OP realizes he totally stepped in it too, he's still around and lurking, he logged in as recently as a few hours ago.
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There's no epilogue to my big Bay 101 thread because I made my point in it and the game died anyway. Pretty much everyone I've talked to about it agreed with me, it was only 2p2 trolls that argued otherwise, and I'll admit I fed them too much. I obviously had no intention of playing there again because I'm not going to play high stakes in a room I think is crooked. There's already been lots of stories of cheating in California poker games, obviously Mike Postle was a few hours away at Stones, theres been those contact lenses that see through certain decks used at home games recently, and so as soon as a floorman starts acting obviously corrupt to me as they did at Bay 101, I'm out, and I was trying to help the poker community by reporting it to the gaming commission and the community.
Despite my account here being almost 20 years in age, my experience with the 2p2 trolls and the lack of fair moderation in that thread really turned me off to being a community member here. The amount of trolling allowed is out of control and the mods have some very strange priorities.
However, as mentioned I've had a severe mental health crisis involving some elements of psychosis a long time ago. It included some erratic behavior that was villainized. I was very fortunate to recover and have since been passionate about mental health, and particularly about helping people realize that there's more to mental health than depression, anxiety, and burnout, and sometimes the people who are acting with the worst behavior actually need the most sympathy and help of all.
I haven't spoken with Nico so I can't necessarily diagnose him over the internet. But the quantity of messages to Melissa, with no responses, as well as him seeing all these "signs" that him and Melissa are meant to be together, goes beyond a young guy with poor social skills and strongly indicates to me the possibility of psychosis that should be taken seriously as a health issue.
Since then, I've unfortunately seen it play out online a few times, and more than once ended in the person dying, including on the 2p2 thread I linked above where I repeatedly told people that cyberbullying someone going through a psychotic episode has major potential downside with zero upside.
So that's why when I see someone making a very dangerous thread, who clearly needs help, and who went to the worst possible place to get it , an internet forum full of people looking to bully him and escalate the situation, I decided to log back in and speak up, despite my frustration with the amount of trolls here. People could literally die as a result of this.
In this very first post in this thread, the OP makes several allusions to killing himself, noting that's been the outcome of some people in his support group and that he's getting "murdered".
Even if you don't care about Nico at all - if you do care about Melissa safety, the best thing to do is defuse this situation and encourage Nico to get help. Bullying him on an internet thread will certainly not get him help but could escalate things.
I think we all agree Nico needs to leave Melissa completely alone forever. Even in the unlikely case there's any element of truth to his claims that Melissa is somehow manipulating the situation, which I doubt, he's still better off leaving her completely alone and resolving any issues through a lawyer.
I gave some advice to Nico, from experience, on how to resolve a mental health crisis.
In the Dnegs thread, just a few pages ago, the 2p2 mod "whosnext" has said hes banned several members who have done nothing but criticize Daniel Negreneau. And yet, DNegs is a rich, powerful, and mentally stable influencer. Some mean things said about him by some online trolls means nothing to him. He'll probably never read it, and if he does, he can easily laugh it off.
Meanwhile, here you have someone who's very clearly going through a mental health crisis, that could very easily escalate to harm to himself or others.
So why are we prioritizing moderating criticism of DNegs and not this very dangerous thread?
This thread should be locked and deleted. Leaving it open leaves room for escalation. Even leaving it undeleted means Google could remember it and not let the parties move on it from it. For the sake of safety and medical privacy, it should be deleted.
Nico needs a therapist and a break from the internet. There's nothing else productive than could possibly be added to this thread.
Can you have psychosis for multiple years? Because this has been going on for years. From when he started stalking her until now when he clearly still doesn't understand and thinks he has been wronged all throughout.
schizophrenia maybe? or some other disorder might explain this
drug use?
I think the majority of posts in this thread aren’t trolls and encourage OP to seek help.
Others may come across as trolling when they’re actually just concerned about his victim’s safety so take a more aggressive and less tactful approach to encouraging him to stop.
And yes, a couple are just trolling.
I’m not diagnosing anything nor am I saying anything about OP. But just for educational purposes, schizophrenia is a type of psychosis but there are many others. And yes, current or prior drug use and even medical conditions can all contribute to mental health issues.
Yeah psychosis is a symptom that could have several underlying causes. If it was more "episodic" (1 month out of 12) it would be more likely bipolar, but if it's been continual, schizophrenia could be a culprit , which was already suggested.
One of the biggest difficulties about delusional people is often they don't recognize they're delusional.
Drug use can badly excaberate this, certainly hard drugs, but even drugs like marijuana that are benign for most people can induce underlying psychosis in certain people. And as mentioned, ADHD drugs like Adderall or Vyvanse should be avoided even if legally prescribed. There's a whole industry pushing easy ADHD meds and doctors not really taking the time to take a holistic picture. A good doctor who found out what Nico sent in Twitter DMs would get him off any sort of stimulants.
If someone lives a clean, sober lifestyle and still suffers from psychosis, they may need anti-psychotics and they made need in-patient psych ward stays. Psych wards can be terrible places and antipsychotics can have bad side effects, and I think doctors use both of these as a blunt treatment when in some case sobriety, talk therapy, and more outdoors/less internet might suffice.
, I am personally a little bit of a "psychiatry skeptic" in that I think drugs like Adderall and Vyvanse are too easily prescribed and their link to other bad issues is under-played, and I think too many doctors rush to pharmaceutical options like anti-psychotics when they should be a last resort. But meds are certainly a better option than someone suffering delusions and in some cases could be a stopgap until the right lifestyle change.
I also want to recognize that Melissa is a victim of feeling very unsafe, of getting some very disturbing messages, of feeling stalked, all through no fault of her own. She was right to get a protective order and people in her life should know what Nico looks like and alert law enforcement if he comes close.
But Nico, if you read this, you are young, and you get some **** together, this will all blow over. I realize that sometimes people use mental illlness as a way to discredit people, and you may feel that way, but take a step back. If you did in fact send those messages to Melissa, they're objectively disturbing. I'm not saying this to demean you or discredit you, I'm saying it as someone's who experienced delusions, that if you're in the middle of them you might not be seeing things as objectively as you imagine. Based on what everyone around you is telling you, she's presented clear evidence of you being unstable and you keep insisting otherwise but havent truly presented any contrary evidence.
There is no conspiracy against you, you keep insisting you're being treated unfairly but you haven't truly been able to materialize any clear evidence disputing anything. Your pro poker career is nothing compared to your health. There will be plenty of opportunity to make money and meet great girls, if you first prioritize your health. That should start by coming to some acceptance that you developed an unhealthy obsession, suffered from delusional thinking, and need a therapist, lifestyle changes, and perhaps a doctor to get to the other side of it. Stop worrying about poker, stop worrying about any of these people, focus on getting help for your health. Make that your #1 priority, take whatever steps necessary to get away from this situation and towards a healthier lifestyle, then go from there. All of these problems can be resolved if you're mentally stable, and there seems to be general consensus that you're not stable.
