Cheating In The Main Event? Was Tamayo's WSOP ME Win Unethical?
Doug Polk has released a video showing Tamayo's rail clearly using a laptop for assistance. You can also see Joe McKeeha
Not a fair comparison. Table games have a very clear and strict no phones/electronic devices policy whereas poker is much more lenient regarding electronics. Which is sort of why we're in this mess to begin with.
Just a poor comparison in general since the casino probably wouldn't give a **** if you stepped away from the table and used a computer to optimize your decisions in a game where they have the edge. Hell, you can pull out those strategy cards at the table and they don't care.
So does Nevada gaming.
It's not a poor comparison and it's a far better comparison than the redicilous sports analogies people have tried to make. That doesn't make it a perfect analogy but it's decent.
The issue is casinos have always cared about their own money and their own protection not their customers.
This varies greatly. If memory serves, the WSOP equips each player with a lavalier, with the gain set to pick up normal conversation. Based on what you describe, whispering behind your mic would muffle the sound pretty well. I assume you're doing it so softly that even your neighbor in the next seat can't hear you.
Well what i was getting at was at one part of the tourney Tamaya decided to have his hood up, at the same time we see the flash of white around his ear lobe. At the end we see them concealing something with the shady looking guy looking highly suspect
I was thinking if Tamaya was whispering his cards i.e J8 suited to them and they run the sim quickly they can feed him back Real time info. Its too late to prove that now i guess
When Tamaya had the near 3/1 chip lead he had his hood down, then after Griff doubled up he has the hood back on...but this is only highlights not real time footage and im a conspiracy nut 😃
24mins in to the vid
Not a fair comparison. Table games have a very clear and strict no phones/electronic devices policy whereas poker is much more lenient regarding electronics. Which is sort of why we're in this mess to begin with.
Just a poor comparison in general since the casino probably wouldn't give a **** if you stepped away from the table and used a computer to optimize your decisions in a game where they have the edge. Hell, you can pull out those strategy cards at the table and they don't care.
Continuing the BJ analogy, if you step back but use that laptop, phone or other device to assist you in counting cards or adjusting your strategy based on the count, you will get a different reaction.
If all they were doing on the rail was reviewing static charts and ranges, it would only be bad. But as they almost definitely were nit, since we know they were watching the stream, I think bad is in the review and we are in or approaching cheating.
Punish them Griff. Unite us! 😀
I don't fw solves but does it say to open 100% vs Griff 50bb deep and bb ante?
That info was given, Tamato comes back to 83o, opens 2.5x. Flops 2pr and gg?
Feel like opening 83os vs a player you have an edge on is pretty horrible.
love how they broadcast "bitches love scotty" at 3:45
i think the less skilled crowd needs to calm down with they won because of this or it gave them more of an edge because everything was pretty close to standard heads up and mostly just played itself
i think the less skilled crowd needs to calm down with they won because of this or it gave them more of an edge because everything was pretty close to standard heads up and mostly just played itself
Who cares.
If it didn't give them an edge they wouldn't have done it.
Just hit them where it hurts and ban all 3 going forward. Make an example of of them.
Wsop doesn't need customers like these 3.
Then see what Nevada gaming has to say about the 10m.
Who cares.
If it didn't give them an edge they wouldn't have done it.
Just hit them where it hurts and ban all 3 going forward. Make an example of of them.
Wsop doesn't need customers like these 3.
Then see what Nevada gaming has to say about the 10m.
Lol Nevada gaming, what are those turkeys going to do regarding the 10m? Assuming its paid out already
Seriously though it doesn’t seem any entity had any power at all if they have been paid
Lol Nevada gaming, what are those turkeys going to do regarding the 10m? Assuming its paid out already
Seriously though it doesn’t seem any entity had any power at all if they have been paid
Not saying they would or even could for this fact set. But NGC has the power to put them on the list of banned players. Then they would be banned from every NV casino.
If a casino overpays you at the cage a couple $100 let's say and they figure it out and call you or track you down next time you come to the casino and ask you to give the money back, they think they overpaid you, you have 2 choices, either tell them no and you will be banned for life and keep the money, or give it back (even if you don't think they overpaid you) and not get banned.
For $10M I am guessing they will say GTFO, lol.
I'm sure they're still good with 10m but I'd think as a guy who has at least been playing the main for 15 years he would be pretty devastated having his title stripped and viewed as a "cheat".
99% not gonna happen. WSOP will just move on, set a precedent for good or bad while making a vague statement about their concerns of player ethics. Hell, they might not even do that.
Yeah it’s like 100% wsop just going to move on but then next year they will say no laptops. Zero in it for them to ban people because then they admitting they dropped ball and perpetrators did something really bad.
Griff is understandably basking in 6M glow but at that point would need to come out of woodwork. No more golly gee I couldn’t have spent the extra 4M anyway after that
I’m saying the nit mucks 83o pre if he wasn’t just told it’s a 100% button spot per solver because of bb ante.
Not that it’s relevant but I just looked at my hands since April. Almost 1,000 hands of 83o my vpip is .1%. Those are MTT and SNG hands. Maybe I’m doing something wrong?