Is there any endorsement money if you win the WSOP ME now?

Ask Kristen Foxen.

I thought Hellmuth has been getting invited to private Silicon Valley & Hollywood games for years and years now.

most of these guys get at least a 1 year sponsorship from GG, weinman did anyway

The year John Cynn took 11th in the main event I saw him get invited to a private game and dust off the whole $650k playing PLO.

I'm sure there will be benefits and opportunities like this to anybody that becomes ME champion. Although lets be honest, an attractive female winning it would get far more coverage and sponsorship offers than your standard solver nerd.

It's nothing like it was in the 2006 poker boom era though.

who needs endorsement money when you are going to get invited to every goddamn home game across the entire world.

Pretty sure Cada was one of the last ones who got a nice PokerStars deal.

so youre not gona get that sweet FTP PS money but you will get a ton fo invites to private games and be able ot get some apperance fees to some things

other players dont have those accolades and still get the above

these days comapring a ACR deal compared to FTP/PS deal are night and day I tho

Getting invited to a juicy home game != a sponsorship.

you think anyone wants Tomoyo in their home game? hahaha

Probably do as 1) won't have his crutch handy and 2) tournament specialist don't always translate to good or even decent cash players, esp. since home games are likely to play nonHE variants.

You think some older rich guys having drinks and laughing it up together want a younger solver nerd at their home game?

Getting invited to shark infested mixed games with cash game specialists is not the perk you are looking for when winning the ME lol. My scenario above is the juicy bone and Tomoyo is not getting invited to any of those.

Yeah, Tamayo may have lost more in a poker site contract and home game invites than equity he gained with those solver tables.

There was discussion in the other thread that Hellmuth doesn't play many tournaments but the WSOP, and clearly doesn't play public cash games. So he probably mostly plays private games. But he has a personality, good or bad. He isn't a good cash game player, but could still clean up. Plus, they may be playing PLO or limit / mixed games a lot.

You probably have to have some personality, tell good stories, etc. to get invited to home games. No one would invite a solver nerd who says nothing and acts like a computer.

You’d have to be bat **** to join random home games because they’re ‘juicy’. Between massive rake and endless ways to cheat at life poker that’s un detectable to the naked eye

Some home game with rich guys playing fairly high stakes may not have any rake. Underground semi-public games, particularly in NYC, have massive rake.

There are numerous home games that play $25/$50 or even higher where 90% of the players couldn't even come close to beating a simple casino $1/$3 game. The EV in these games are utterly ridiculous.

I agree 100% that a player has to be very careful about private games. A large percentage are dangerous. Absolutely no doubt. However, if one can fund the exception, the EV is absurd. Printing money.

https://www.pokertube.com/article/jason-...

That is another issue. I have seen public 50/100 NLHE at Parx. However, most of the higher stakes NLHE games are semi-private, as is well known. It is really weird, they get some friends who are friendly and play sort of loose to provide games for whales. Most of the amateurs don't want to play a bunch of silent, tight, computer-like GTO players. The biggest public games are PLO or mixed games.

nothing weird about them. like you said people gambling and donating need something in return for their money. way too many parasites think merely being better at a game they study and play basically every day entitles them to an amateurs money when it doesn't. being better at poker than someone playing for fun who doesn't take it seriously also isn't an accomplishment. it's just pathetic if you're not better than them.

I was playing in a public game a few years ago when the biggest poker parasite I've ever played with was lurking as he was first on the list. everyone in this player pool was sick of him and we all agreed if a seat opened we were all just gonna go to the bar and drink and poker was done for the night. after he waited 4-5 hours for a seat, someone busted out and that's exactly what we did. if he was just halfway social nobody would have had a problem with him as he folded all night. but he was everything wrong with poker put into one person and was ruining the experience for everyone.

As for the original questions- there really is nothing interesting or marketable about any recent main event winners. I probably can't even name 3 in the last 10 years. A woman winning would be huge. Another boring poker nerd isn't a big deal.

Seems pretty weird to me, like set up games of some friends to take money from suckers. Agree that some of the players excluded are difficult though.

The first table to open in most casinos that has a lineup of 2 prop players 3 pros and a fish is basically a set up game of people who hate each other to take money from suckers.

The first table to open in most casino is filled with retirees who have nothing better to do and are there for the free coffee (and in some venues, doughnuts). They like each others' company. Who else would want to play 3-6 limit hold'em?

How many rooms even use props? Esp since there are many places they can’t.

Give us a list of places you KNOW that routinely use props to open games.

I don’t know if winning -$650k at PLO technically counts as an endorsement deal.