The WSOP Main Event Returning Champ Should Start with 10X Stack
Not this coming year. The 2025 champ should start with a 10x stack in 2026.
This would make the TV coverage much better and increase the possibility of back to back winners. As long as everyone knows what the deal is ahead of time, there is no problem with me. There are tradeoffs but I think this idea is strong enough.
Aside from a few odd occasions I have not really watched the TV coverage for about a decade. This would absolutely make me watch because I want to see how a well-skilled practitioner approaches this. My only fear for the idea would be that someone might not to show up for the first days, and that would be their strategy... boring. A creative rule could protect against that.
What do you think?
I think all ME winners should get free entry for life but ya 10x starting doesn’t seem fair to me
A massive mystery bounty on the head of any former champ would be interesting.
The main event should be prestigious and different. I disagree that adding a whole new WSOP and a thousand more bracelets is the way to go with poker. The bracelets don't mean anything anymore, and if it keeps going in this direction, the main event won't mean anything either.
The main event is a vacation for winning cash game players and an impossible dream for 98% of others. None of that will change with this. Arguments heard and I think they would be forgotten within the year.
Best wishes to all.
Lack of vision is what I hear from the crowd on this one, sorry but that is the truth. 10X was never actually the point, I was gonna say 2X to start, than 5X, then changed it to 10X to make it more fun.
Lack of vision is what I hear from the crowd on this one, sorry but that is the truth. 10X was never actually the point, I was gonna say 2X to start, than 5X, then changed it to 10X to make it more fun.
If people do not want to paint over the Mona Lisa to make her smile more pronounced, is that a lack of vision?
The main event should be prestigious and different. I disagree that adding a whole new WSOP and a thousand more bracelets is the way to go with poker. The bracelets don't mean anything anymore, and if it keeps going in this direction, the main event won't mean anything either.
The main event is a vacation for winning cash game players and an impossible dream for 98% of others. None of that will change with this. Arguments heard and I think they would be forgotten within the year.
Best wishes to al
the main event is a vacation for businessmen and retired income investors making $200k-$2 million a year and a big business week for professionals. as it should be.
Lack of vision is what I hear from the crowd on this one, sorry but that is the truth. 10X was never actually the point, I was gonna say 2X to start, than 5X, then changed it to 10X to make it more fun.
Maybe more fun to a select group of viewers, but not to the players who now have worse odds. I think a lot of people would be turned off from entering the main event knowing that a previous winner is given a significant equity advantage.
Although, going with your idea in a new way, there could be a tournament where you spin a wheel that determines a multiplier of your starting stack. I personally wouldn't really like this that much, but I could see something like that catching on. It's like a spin & go except it randomizes your odds of winning rather than the prize pool.
I think this is a terrible idea for most of the reasons others have said. Keep the Main Event as it is.
That said, I would like to see the WSOP add some quirky meta tournaments. Maybe a tournament where there are no rebuys, but a player can buy multiple times the starting stack when buying in. So let's say the tournament is a $3000 buy in tournament. A player can enter for $12,000 and start off with 4 times the starting stack. Furthermore make it a bounty tournament. If $1000 of the entry goes t
I had a similar idea that I think could work well as a WSOP side event.
My idea was a tournament that allows you to late register with an average stack, so that you start with more chips as players are eliminated and the average stack increases. The caveat is that the buy-in amount increases as the average stack increases.
This would allow players from drastically different buy-in levels to all compete in the same tournament. The early levels could be looked at sort of like a satellite for a higher buy-in event.
So imagine the buy-in starts at $100 for 10,000 chips. Eventually as the blinds go up and the chip average hits 100,000 you would have to pay $1,000. Maybe registration would end with a max late reg being equivalent to $10,000 for a 1,000,000 average stack. There could also be intermediate amounts so for example the tournament starts as a $100 buy in, then goes up to $200, $500, $1,000, $2,000, $5,000 with a final buy in level of $10,000, with the starting stack increasing every time the buy in amount increases.
I think this would be cool for recreational players and pros alike. A total novice could spend $100 at the start of the tournament, and be able to say they played in the same tournament as top pros.
For the pros you could register late at a higher buy in amount for the opportunity to play with an average stack against a field that includes a bunch of low stakes players that ran up big stacks.
Seems like it could be a fun novel format.
I had a similar idea that I think could work well as a WSOP side event.
My idea was a tournament that allows you to late register with an average stack, so that you start with more chips as players are eliminated and the average stack increases. The caveat is that the buy-in amount increases as the average stack increases.
This would allow players from drastically different buy-in levels to all compete in the same tournament. The early levels could be looked at sort of like a satellite for a highe
I think that would be a very interesting format and I think it would be very interesting to see it happen.
That said, I don't want to see them announce it as the Main Event format next year. Some things are not meant to be messed with.
I think that would be a very interesting format and I think it would be very interesting to see it happen.
That said, I don't want to see them announce it as the Main Event format next year. Some things are not meant to be messed with.
Haha. Yeah agreed, I would hate to see it as the main event format. But I think it could be a novel side event.
After thinking more about it I agree with the person who said the main event is sacred. If it's not broke don't try to fix it.
I think giving them a 2x-3x stack but then also a big bounty on their head could be an interesting gimmick for more coverage and would negate the fact recs feel their edge got worse with their excitement to go after a big bounty (and maybe some TV time in doing so). 10x stack seems somewhat overkill and would almost certainly upset a lot of recs.
There have been 4 back to back WSOP ME champions, THAT had a lot to do with the appeal of the WSOP, BUT did nothing compared to the Online poker amplification of the game, reaching millions of prospective customers for poker. .
We're unlikely to see another back-to-back champion, given the size of the fields
Raymer going back to back would’ve been huge news, as would Hellmuth, Chan, Negreanu, Ivey, Moneymaker or one of Doyle’s kids winning. Or a mainstream celebrity like Jason Alexander or Paul Pierce.
Best of all would be someone like Foxen (sigh) or Boeree winning. Nothing else will move the needle at all, though a recent champ winning again would be notable.
