Pokerstars USA Rake Increase

Pokerstars USA Rake Increase

Pokerstars USA recently increased the rake. This increase is unacceptable. Even ACR has lower rake while also providing

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13 November 2024 at 07:53 PM
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The average increase in rake collected per pot seems to be about a 12% increase at 50NL and 15% increase at 30NL ... guessing this just translates into a simple equation of your old bb/100 rake paid times 1.12 or 1.15 ...

This is not taking into account that you don't VPIP every hand or win every hand. Technically you're only paying rake when you win the hand, and you can't pay rake if you don't VPIP (other than contributions for blinds). I'm uncertain right off hand how that could be taken into account. Still importing the rest of my hands to see if the calculation changes at all.

I've posted my query to see if anyone can spot any errors in how I'm calculating this. One thing to note the avg_pot_size includes unraked hands that ended preflop.



Updated a few small errors I found in the query, results didn't change significantly. Added in 100NL - I think even with my limited sample it's probably pretty accurate. For me, this amounts to around 1.28bb/100 at 30NL, and .73bb/100 at 50NL ...



by okseaj k

I'm pretty sure I was being raked at around 16bb/100 based on the stats I have for BetMGM

Rake seemed huge, but I think games on these sites are soft enough that you can still achieve high win rates. Still frustrating to pay so much rake though.

solid results nonetheless brother


I take it your good with SQL


by TopPair2Pair k

I take it your good with SQL

Yup, unfortunately I can't seem to get any interviews let alone a job.


by ten25 k

Due to major advancements that have been made in strategy over the past 5-10 years, winning at NLHE has become increasingly difficult.

fixed that for you


by sixfour k

fixed that for you

the difficulty actually increased across all games; it's just that HE is the most competitive and best studied game.

heck people even have a clue how to play 5card PLO these days.


They raised the rake while Global started giving rakeback to SNG players (was only going to cash game players before)...


Pokerstars might be losing money in the US.


not a chance they have a casino. they are definitely losing money at poker tho in canada too. but company's know to take losses for market shares in Canada their decision was weird because they were bleeding market shares. In the us if they already won the monopoly I can see it


Has any room actually decreased rake once it's been increased?


by JVinegar k

Has any room actually decreased rake once it's been increased?

No. And this will never happen.

The best thing that can happen is a promo that gives more rakeback.


by JVinegar k

Has any room actually decreased rake once it's been increased?

GG just reduced rake on $2k tables. SWC reduced its rake also but unfortunately few players there.


has stars never lowered rake in its 20 year history?


Have we all forgotten that famous quote: "more rake is better"?


rake rake rak.

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