Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here
how bad must he be when a girl falls asleep while making out and snores right after?
life fish..... food arrived but didn't eat it....
o well atleast the girl grinded him on the rails of a club, almost got kicked out for grinding? Kappa
Seems like GG has ****ed up a lot recently with massive rake increases, banning winning players and now hackers can essentially know which cards the opponent has (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kMXNbTX...).
I'm sure Daniel and other sponsored pros won't address this is any way, but do you believe the face of the company has any responsibility here? Is it ok to receive massive amounts of money and continue to promote a shitty poker site like GG when you are the face of the whole poker industry
Jason Koon who is supposedly on the "anti cheating council" or whatever has way more responsibility than DNegs in this matter imo.
New videos with some reflections on 2023 and changes for 2024:
Cliffs Notes on his resolutions:
- Play fewer events.
- Focus more/gamble less.
- Work harder.
- Don't chase WSOP POTY. (!!!)
All sound like positive changes for him.
Seems like he recognized that the relentless POTY grind was counterproductive for him, especially since POTY is an empty title. You don't even win a truck anymore!
Daniel's poker pedigree speaks for itself as fifth on the all time tournament cash list with a career spanning decades. He and Hellmuth are the only guys from the original high stakes poker that still appear in high stakes televised cash games.
If Amanda didn't want fame, she wouldn't have been a poker reporter.
Dwan JRB Robl and I'm sure some others.
DN sure but Helmuth min buys in super soft games.
New videos with some reflections on 2023 and changes for 2024:
Cliffs Notes on his resolutions:
- Play fewer events.
- Focus more/gamble less.
- Work harder.
- Don't chase WSOP POTY. (!!!)
All sound like positive changes for him.
Seems like he recognized that the relentless POTY grind was counterproductive for him, especially since POTY is an empty title. You don't even win a truck anymore!
Yea POTY is a joke for many reasons. I'm amazed Deeb cares so much about it.
He should also add don't get hustled by HU NL specialists to play HU NL at a massive disadvantage although maybe that was 2022.
DNegs says in the new vid that he needs to be more humble and work hard, then immediately says he doesn't care what any of us think or say, he knows best. Very contradicting speech all throughout the video.
DNegs says in the new vid that he needs to be more humble and work hard, then immediately says he doesn't care what any of us think or say, he knows best. Very contradicting speech all throughout the video.
It's pretty obvious how far above ev he's run in poker that normal swings are somehow shocking to him.
Also kind of funny he has to torch 2.2 mil and break even over 3 years to realize entering every event possible and firing multiple bullets like a mad man is a terrible strategy. I mean running from 25ks to 500 dollar events is pretty hilarious.
He's def won at life though.
You do get a Main Event entry with POTY but I think a relative unknown that was fueled by online results diminishes the prestige of it
WSOP should re-evaluate POTY, and make it a more juicy title worth chasing. Right now it’s just a prestige thing with banner equity, which DNegs really wants, like a lot, but he’s finally realized his game isn’t suited for the chase. Nevertheless, I think WSOP should treat winning POTY like the PGA treats winning a major, the POTY should get like a 5 or even 10 year “exemption” into the Main. Oh, and the bs online events shouldn’t count, or barely count imho.
Online bracelets are fake bracelets IMO, not that bracelets really mean much anyway. I used to be in the trance of the WSOP branding, but tournaments are just tournaments. Winning some 200 person mixed variant at the WSOP isn't more impressive than winning a 1,500 player field at the Wynn even though one is a bracelet and one isn't. The old players like Doyle and Chip prioritized money over bracelets until bracelets became the metric of a player's worth, but it feels like they had it right in the first place. Judging players primarily by their bracelets, rings, and "WSOP cashes" is just feeding into the Caesars marketing.
Negreanu ditching the POTY rat race feels like an epiphany that it's not worth the time/energy/money just to have your picture on the wall. I think a part of him wanted to have "most WSOP POTY in history" locked down as his Hellmuth-like claim to tangible WSOP history, but he had enough self-awareness to realize the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
As for Deeb, he was a volume beast of epic proportions back in the heyday of pre-BF online grinding. You'd see him in the big buy-ins all the way down to the measly $3+R where scrubs like myself existed. I'd venture to guess that around 2009 or 2010, Deeb had played more total MTTs than just about anyone on the planet. He seemed to genuinely love the grind, so it's actually not surprising that his propensity for insane volume has translated to the live realm.
WSOP should re-evaluate POTY, and make it a more juicy title worth chasing. Right now it’s just a prestige thing with banner equity, which DNegs really wants, like a lot, but he’s finally realized his game isn’t suited for the chase. Nevertheless, I think WSOP should treat winning POTY like the PGA treats winning a major, the POTY should get like a 5 or even 10 year “exemption” into the Main. Oh, and the bs online events shouldn’t count, or barely count imh
They're in a tricky spot because it's either:
A.) Make it about quantity over quality (in which case it's primarily a bankroll competition).
B.) Make it about quality over quantity (in which case it's primarily about who sun runs in the big spots that year).
You can try to find a balance in the middle, but I'm not sure it's possible in a 6-7 week festival to devise a formula for who played the best.
I think GPI POTY is the closest thing to a world championship in tournament poker, and even that still feels like a glorified rungood meter after 12 months of results.
Poker doesn't lend itself well to this type of honor. Too hard to separate the signal from the noise.
Maybe he is concerned that if GG goes the way of UB he won't be able to afford to lose $2 million a year.
Online bracelets are fake bracelets IMO, not that bracelets really mean much anyway. I used to be in the trance of the WSOP branding, but tournaments are just tournaments. Winning some 200 person mixed variant at the WSOP isn't more impressive than winning a 1,500 player field at the Wynn even though one is a bracelet and one isn't. The old players like Doyle and Chip prioritized money over bracelets until bracelets became the metric of a player's worth, but it feels like they had it right in th
All bracelets are a marketing gimmick. There's no prestige or significance about them. Some guy has one from the 70s for winning a 2 player event. You can win a 10000 percent 500 dollar cluster **** or win some 100 person high roller and they both issue bracelets so who cares.
It's not like winning an MVP or Cy Young award.
All bracelets are a marketing gimmick. There's no prestige or significance about them. Some guy has one from the 70s for winning a 2 player event. You can win a 10000 percent 500 dollar cluster **** or win some 100 person high roller and they both issue bracelets so who cares.
It's not like winning an MVP or Cy Young award.
One guy has one in Five Card Stud because no one else showed up
New videos with some reflections on 2023 and changes for 2024:
Cliffs Notes on his resolutions:
- Play fewer events.
- Focus more/gamble less.
- Work harder.
- Don't chase WSOP POTY. (!!!)
All sound like positive changes for him.
Seems like he recognized that the relentless POTY grind was counterproductive for him, especially since POTY is an empty title. You don't even win a truck anymore!
2024 I'm going to be humble.
Same guy: Nobody other than I know why I lost in 2023.
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I just ran bad.
Same guy: Playing straight up gamble blind shove poker is good for the rest of you. But I don't do that with other people's money :/
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The lack of self awareness is striking with this guy. It's a good thing he makes money away from the tables.
What would have been really persuasive relative to the "I don't need unsolicited advice" BS would have been, "I'm working with a coach to review where my leaks are and how to plug them" because it's glaringly obvious that he has massive leaks and were it not for making quads against aces full last year, he'd be down $5 million in two years.
Is he better than most of us? Sure. Is he world class? Right now, not close.
Yeah, he could hire some great coaches with his $s. Also, might be good to try playing online NLHE and PLO cash and see what level he could beat. Play SNGs and MTTSNGs and learn about playing a short stack. Also, might be good to start and 5/5 or so and see what level of live NLHE and PLO he can beat.
He could also cut out the high rollers and do fine. No question he can crush $1500 tournaments in any game.
Good on him for being honest about losing. But much to comment.
My main lol from his review was having "cash percentage" up there on 29%. Sounds like a good number that sorta confirms his narrative that "i was running bad in the high rollers, thats main reason I lost so much this year". While he does admit that its inflated because of number of buy ins in each event, its just mentioned briefly before he moves on. In reality his cash percentage is probably around 10%, a very bad number for a professional playing 150+ events.
Good on him for being honest about losing. But much to comment.
My main lol from his review was having "cash percentage" up there on 29%. Sounds like a good number that sorta confirms his narrative that "i was running bad in the high rollers, thats main reason I lost so much this year". While he does admit that its inflated because of number of buy ins in each event, its just mentioned briefly before he moves on. In reality his cash percentage is probably around 10%, a very bad number for a profe
Lol, if I play one event and fire 10 bullets at it and cash and then say I have a cash percentage of 100%
The only genuine WSOP bracelet is a live brick and mortar bracelet won in the state of Nevada.
That said, DNegs hasn't won a genuine, born in the USA bracelet since 2008.
He has literally had thousands of entries since then, and has come up empty every time.
That said, Daniel has definitely won in the game of life.
The only genuine WSOP bracelet is a live brick and mortar bracelet won in the state of Nevada.
That said, DNegs hasn't won a genuine, born in the USA bracelet since 2008.
He has literally had thousands of entries since then, and has come up empty every time.
That said, Daniel has definitely won in the game of life.
Does he seem happy to you ?
Can someone figure out his actual cash percentage in these 150 events
Is that possible
Good on him for being honest about losing. But much to comment.
My main lol from his review was having "cash percentage" up there on 29%. Sounds like a good number that sorta confirms his narrative that "i was running bad in the high rollers, thats main reason I lost so much this year". While he does admit that its inflated because of number of buy ins in each event, its just mentioned briefly before he moves on. In reality his cash percentage is probably around 10%, a very bad number for a profe
It's odd he calculates his "cash percentage" like this,while being honest about his losses and admitting the way he calculates it is total nonsense.
DNegs claims he's had only two losing years in his 30 year poker career.
I call bullshit on that.
He's had two losing years in the last 10 years.
No chance DNegs went the first 20 years of poker without having a losing year.
