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guys are the bots gone yet?

cash game bots yesterday got new patch. They started to play a bit differently

What makes you think they're bots?

There's certainly some action being taken but I still come across bots in MTTs. If I go through the Loncar lobby today for example only 1 suspected bot played it (densu1).

I've played against 258 of the suspected bots since Jan-2022. Since the start of this year I've played against 34 (although I've only played 5 sessions so far).

I've also gone through my database to try and pick up on their tendencies and this is what I've learnt so far for at least 1 group of bots:

1.) They use a raise first in size that is a rounded whole number which is not possible with a scroll wheel. E.g. At blinds 125/250 they'll RFI to 550 (2.25x) then a few levels later at blinds 300 / 600 they'll RFI to 1300 (2.17x). I'm aware you can have custom preflop raise sizes with the ACR software or a third party software but it just feels too precise the way their RFI size is always a rounded whole number across different blind levels.

2.) The same applies post-flop. Lots of bet sizes that are rounded whole numbers not possible with a scroll wheel. E.g. Blinds 200 / 400 they raise to 900, the BB calls - total pot is 2400 chips and they c-bet 1500 chips. A human is likely going to use custom bet sizes like 30% pot, 33% pot, 60% pot, 66% pot etc. whereas these rounded whole numbers feel a lot more mechanical and are stranger percentages like 28.5%, 62.5% etc.

Look it's possible there's some 3rd party software that can do this kind of thing that I'm unaware of but the fact that a large % of these accounts are doing it .... seems sus to me. Also, 75% of the names on the suspected list start with a capital letter which I know doesn't mean much, just something I noticed.

There are still some bots ou there in the cash game tables (NL100/NL200). At least before the new update.

- BerserkLove
- dictex2
- ToxLayer
- Ventina
- BadMercy
- Choloepus
- plaxyRON
- SlitherTuft

It would be awesome if Tyler could also check these sn to see if they are confirmed bots as well.

they are all bots

WPN clearly did something with/too some of the more frequent bots (200nl-50nl) . Some remain. And more have came along in their place. It is like the operators have extra accounts at the ready. Incredible really!

Also, there is something most of these accounts do. That almost zero regs do. Which makes it quite obvious they are bots, to the regs who pay close attention.

So it makes you wonder how more of these accounts weren't caught before. And why some still remain...

Yes this is something that I've thought about in the past. I've never gotten a refund, even though it's obvious that I've played against cheaters and bots, whose accounts have been closed down.

I got banned from Boyle Poker in 2007 for multi accounting. I didn't even know I was doing anything wrong. I just wanted to clear deposit bonuses.

But the scum over at Boyle Poker confiscated my money, banned me from the site and they obviously just kept the money for themselves, because I've never got a refund once playing online poker.

Many are still playing even today.

Surreal. Atleast ACR is taking this very seriously. I hope they can fix the problem soon because it doesn't look that great for future poker players.

how many of these banned accounts have come forward trying to defend their case that they are not bots?

i think that's the most damning part of this ordeal that a 100+ accounts get banned and no one from those accounts are trying to fight it.

Pretty sure the same bots on ACR are on Ignition as well.

+ Chico aswell imo. Pool there is very small.

Iggy has non existent security so there would be even more bots there. I think the community would be shocked if they really knew how many bots existed in the pool. I bet all the pools are infested on all the sites other than Stars.

At the same time though, a lot have all suddenly stopped:

Some interesting stuff in this if its true. Probably deserves it own thread. They think not only is the BOT using GTO but is also combining it with population tendencies to make decisions.

This is the elephant in the room if you ask me…

It can only mean one thing as well.

The botting and card sharing/collusion that's going on on Ignition/Bodog is insane. Bots cold calling 3bets with nonsense hands and getting to the river multiway then attempting to force the legitimate guy out of the pot.

It seems that MTT bots are gone and tournaments are overlaying...

dont you worry, they'll be back under new accounts soon enough to take care of that overlay

If this is an accurate, but informal match between the bots gone and the overlays, then that means there were a large number of bots.

this ****er that came 3rd in The Venom also just stopped playing

They all play the same weird as **** strategy.