Player Flees Casino after losing All-in with Chips in hand
So this happened the other night at the Desert Diamond Casino-West Valley in Glendale, Arizona at the $2/3 NL game.
It was like 2 a.m. or so and the game was maybe 6-7 handed.
The guy in seat 4 raises to $15, he had about $500 behind.
The guy in seat 6, with about $800 behind 3-bets to $35.
Seat 7 (who only had about $80 behind) flat calls
Seat 4 calls.
Flop: 8c - Tc - 6d
Seat 4: check
Seat 6: bets $40
Seat 7: moves all-in for his last $45
Seat 4: Moves all in for $400+
Seat 6: Insta calls and shows KK with the king of clubs
Seat 4 shows Q9 of clubs (straight and flush draw)
Seat 7 shows QJ off (?)
three of clubs on the turn, 4 of heart on the river. Seat 6 wins with a flush.
NOW HERE COMES THE REAL INTERESTING PART.......
While the dealer is counting down the stacks of Seat 6 for an exact count, Seat 4 pulls back his initial bet of $40, racks up ALL his chips and darts out the door bypassing the cage.
It happened all so fast that he was gone before anyone could react. Tribal Police were called. Reports were taken.
The even more crazy part is that the thief in seat 6 is a well know regular there. Andrew "Fez" Walsh. Casino didn't pay seat 4 what he was owed. Has anyone heard of this happening before at a Casino?
I think the casino is taking the easy way out here, yeah they are only "facilitating" the game, just like they "facilitate" all the pit games like Blackjack, Craps, etc.What would happen if someone ran by and stole *player* chips off the Blackjack or Craps table? It would probably be a huge local news story if the casino did not make the player whole. Or imagine that someone lo
You make a really solid point here. Casinos absolutely have a responsibility to maintain the integrity of the games they facilitate, whether it’s Blackjack, Craps, or poker. The idea that they’re just “facilitating” the game doesn’t really hold up when you consider how much control they exert over every other aspect of the gaming experience. If they’re taking a rake, they’re profiting from the game, and with that comes a certain level of accountability.
Not that uncommon. I even had it happen to me before. The crazy part was it wasn't much money at all. Nobody tried to stop him as I think it's their policy. He clearly said call on the river so I showed my hand he seen he lost picked up all his chips without paying the bet off and left lol.
The casino paid me the bet (although they aren't obligated to) and just said he was banned unless/until he pays it back of course.
We’re quite lucky casino paid the bet. Most wouldn’t. They would ban him until he paid off the bet but they would not pay it.
We’re quite lucky casino paid the bet. Most wouldn’t. They would ban him until he paid off the bet but they would not pay it.
Yeah I'm aware. It was only about a hundred and I was a semi regular so I think they just decided it was worth the good will to pay it.
If it was 500+ I'm reasonably confident they wouldn't of ate the loss.
Had a guy do this about 6 months at our local place. Picked up about 2k in chips and walked out after he lost an all in. They banned him but didn't pay the player. Only thing I can think of is that the casino would be afraid of collusion.
The moral of the story: if a player flees with your chips tackle that MF yourself!
Spoiler
Wait until they get outside so you don't get banned too.
The moral of the story: if a player flees with your chips tackle that MF yourself!
Spoiler
Wait until they get outside so you don't get banned too.
lol, don't do this. You'll probably still catch a ban (even if it's outside, but on casino property), a charge, or even worse if dude is armed.
So this happened the other night at the Desert Diamond Casino-West Valley in Glendale, Arizona at the $2/3 NL game. It was like 2 a.m. or so and the game was maybe 6-7 handed.The guy in seat 4 raises to $15, he had about $500 behind.The guy in seat 6, with about $800 behind 3-bets to $35.Seat 7 (who only had about $80 behind) flat callsSeat 4 calls.Flop: 8c - Tc - 6dSeat 4:
NOW HERE COMES THE DELICATE PART
Had a guy do this about 6 months at our local place. Picked up about 2k in chips and walked out after he lost an all in. They banned him but didn't pay the player. Only thing I can think of is that the casino would be afraid of collusion.
This is definitely a part of the casino decision. Esp. if either of you are not a regular there. They do not want to establish this as a precedent.
Chips must go in the middle commingled together and this crap ends. Until then we will get another 25 years of 2+2 threads like this. Maybe forcing the chips to go in the middle will also help eliminate the absurd amount of low denomination chip on bigger games. Go to your local casino and even on a $5-10 game you will see something like a bunch of players with one stack of $5 chips, six stacks (WTF?!) of $25 chips and some higher chips sitting on top of that.
Chips must go in the middle commingled together and this crap ends. Until then we will get another 25 years of 2+2 threads like this. Maybe forcing the chips to go in the middle will also help eliminate the absurd amount of low denomination chip on bigger games. Go to your local casino and even on a $5-10 game you will see something like a bunch of players with one stack of
I see the exact opposite in low limit games. Don't need $500s or $1000s in a 1/3 or 2/5 or even most 5/10 games (at least for $1000s). Seldom do 1/3 or 2/5 even actually need black ($100s). I play in match stack or no cap games and they get deep relative to stakes but rarely do black make sense.
Oh Lord, the point is this will keep happening as long as there isn't a rule that the chips need to actually be pushed into the middle, away from the players, controlled by the dealer and commingled. Here is an example of the absurd amount of lower denomination chips on tables. Having to constantly push an absurd amount of chips into the middle like shown below is silly. The solution here has multiple moving parts that need changing.

No, I imagine you're correct, as this is exactly what I have been saying all along. The casino could just as easily stop someone leaving the poker table with stolen chips as they could stop someone leaving the blackjack table with stolen chips. They just choose not to do so because they don't really care about protecting the players. Excitement and
aThe comparison to underground rooms is interesting—those environments often rely heavily on trust and reputation to keep players coming back, so it makes sense they'd be stricter about things like stolen chips or unpaid wagers. It’s a fascinating contrast between the corporate liability mindset of casinos and the community-driven enforcement in underground games.
Chips must go in the middle commingled together and this crap ends. Until then we will get another 25 years of 2+2 threads like this. Maybe forcing the chips to go in the middle will also help eliminate the absurd amount of low denomination chip on bigger games. Go to your local casino and even on a $5-10 game you will see something like a bunch of players with one stack of
In my local room, we have exactly ONE dealer who is meticulous about this, and insists on counting out an all-in and getting all the chips in the middle before another card is turned. Everyone else just throws out the "all-in" button and proceeds with the hand.
In my local room, we have exactly ONE dealer who is meticulous about this, and insists on counting out an all-in and getting all the chips in the middle before another card is turned. Everyone else just throws out the "all-in" button and proceeds with the hand.
Dealer is probably palming chips off the stacks. I trust most dealers like I trust a snake. Most are true degenerates.
I haven't read most of this thread. But in my interactions with some of the poker psychology coaches, I always stated that "fight or flight" was essentially a phony concept that had virtually nothing to do with tilt. I also stated that if it was true, you would see more fights in poker rooms and also occasionally see someone grab their chips and run out of the poker room, something that I have never seen.
Well, this looks to me like a legitimate example of fight or flight, and in this case, flight is what happened.
Not that uncommon. I even had it happen to me before. The crazy part was it wasn't much money at all. Nobody tried to stop him as I think it's their policy. He clearly said call on the river so I showed my hand he seen he lost picked up all his chips without paying the bet off and left lol. The casino paid me the bet (although they aren't obligated to) and just said he was bann
Probably not the most disgusting practice of a licensed casino but still objectionable. Just imagine their inaction if a player tried to walk out with a bj bet or tried to claw back a tip bet for the dealer.
my favorite thing about the OP is the completely unnecessary, detailed description of the hand...when that's not the purpose of the thread.
All OP had to say was, "There-way all-in, one guy rivers a flush and the loser runs-off with his chips, not paying the all-in." Or something similar.
THAT'S what the thread is about...not the freakin' hand. Who cares about the hand lol
my favorite thing about the OP is the completely unnecessary, detailed description of the hand...when that's not the purpose of the thread.
All OP had to say was, "There-way all-in, one guy rivers a flush and the loser runs-off with his chips, not paying the all-in." Or something similar.
THAT'S what the thread is about...not the freakin' hand. Who cares about the hand lol
I mostly agree.
But the one part missing... was the guy wearing jorts? (hashtag deep cut)
How'd you even stumble on this 3 year old thread to bump?
lol it was on the front page.
The winner of the hand runs off with only his own chips. THAT's special.
I haven't read most of this thread. But in my interactions with some of the poker psychology coaches, I always stated that "fight or flight" was essentially a phony concept that had virtually nothing to do with tilt. I also stated that if it was true, you would see more fights in poker rooms and also occasionally see someone grab their chips and run out of the poker room, somet
In poker people “fight” at the table with their stack. They “flight” by punting off their stack and leaving. I’ve also seen both physical fights and people running out of the room with chips but 99.99% of the time the fight/flight response still falls within the context of a poker game


