*** January 2025 High Stakes Thread ***
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I believe ashianflushie is Bjorn Li
Thoughts on take of worlds #1?
whats the point of this video ? 😆 do u play vs them ?
I'm gonna disagree with some of his conclusion that at 200k hands if they had that same winrate pr0digy would be by far the best player
it would still be unclear and it could very well still be variance
never underestimate variance, and I mean it's even made clear from the orange lines
the only conclusion we can get to is they're all pretty good at poker
Phil Hellmuth was actually determined to be the best player on High Stakes Duel
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §5,233.40 (105 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §13,525.40 (271 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) 3-bets to §450, Clickr (SB) calls §300
Flop: (§920) 8♣ 4♣ 8♦ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §200, Clickr (SB) raises to §700, daBOAT (BB) raises to §1,500, Clickr (SB) calls §800
Turn: (§3,920) A♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
River: (§3,920) 6♥ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Total pot: §3,920 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows Q♣ Q♥ 4♥ 5♣ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)
Clickr (SB) shows J♣ 4♦ 4♠ T♦ (a full house, Fours full of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 90%, River: 100%)
Clickr (SB) wins §3,912
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §7,437.40 (149 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §11,305.40 (226 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) 3-bets to §450, Clickr (SB) calls §300
Flop: (§920) J♠ 9♣ 9♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §200, Clickr (SB) calls §200
Turn: (§1,320) J♦ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) bets §984, daBOAT (BB) calls §984
River: (§3,288) 7♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Total pot: §3,288 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
Clickr (SB) mucks
daBOAT (BB) shows 9♥ 6♦ 7♥ 8♣ (a full house, Nines full of Sevens)
daBOAT (BB) wins §3,280
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §16,777.20 (336 bb)
Clickr (BB): §6,361.60 (127 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) Q♥ 4♦ 9♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) 2♠ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
River: (§320) A♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §93.60, daBOAT (SB) raises to §592.80, Clickr (BB) calls §499.20
Total pot: §1,505.60 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows 2♥ 3♦ T♦ 8♥ (a flush, Ace high)
Clickr (BB) mucks
daBOAT (SB) wins §1,497.60
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §16,646 (333 bb)
Clickr (BB): §6,452.80 (129 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) 3-bets to §450, daBOAT (SB) calls §300
Flop: (§920) Q♠ 6♠ 3♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §540, daBOAT (SB) calls §540
Turn: (§2,000) K♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §1,494, daBOAT (SB) calls §1,494
River: (§4,988) K♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §4,980, Clickr (BB) folds
Total pot: §4,988 (Rake: §8)
daBOAT (SB) wins §4,980
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §10,126.30 (203 bb)
Clickr (BB): §7,241 (145 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 2♣ 6♥ A♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §234, Clickr (BB) calls §234
Turn: (§788) 9♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
River: (§788) 8♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §390, Clickr (BB) calls §390
Total pot: §1,568 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows A♣ A♦ 7♥ 4♥ (a flush, Ace high)
Clickr (BB) mucks
daBOAT (SB) wins §1,560
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §6,669 (133 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §10,682.30 (214 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 3♠ K♣ 4♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) 5♥ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §156, Clickr (SB) calls §156
River: (§632) 4♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §624, Clickr (SB) calls §624
Total pot: §1,880 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 3♦ 6♥ Q♦ 9♣ (two pair, Fours and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 29%, Turn: 30%, River: 0%)
Clickr (SB) shows T♦ K♠ 6♦ 8♣ (two pair, Kings and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 71%, Turn: 70%, River: 100%)
Clickr (SB) wins §1,872
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §9,742.35 (195 bb)
Clickr (BB): §7,601 (152 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) A♣ A♠ 8♣ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) T♠ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §156, Clickr (BB) calls §156
River: (§632) 9♠ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §624, Clickr (BB) calls §624
Total pot: §1,880 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows 9♣ K♦ 5♠ 7♦ (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)
Clickr (BB) shows 6♦ A♦ J♠ J♦ (three of a kind, Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)
Clickr (BB) wins §1,872
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §8,620 (172 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §8,651.35 (173 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 8♠ 7♠ 8♥ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) bets §93.60, daBOAT (BB) calls §93.60
Turn: (§507.20) 2♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
River: (§507.20) 6♥ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §499.20, Clickr (SB) calls §499.20
Total pot: §1,505.60 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows T♠ 8♣ 3♣ 6♠ (a full house, Eights full of Sixes)
Clickr (SB) mucks
daBOAT (BB) wins §1,497.60
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §9,396.15 (188 bb)
Clickr (BB): §7,867.20 (157 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 7♣ 5♠ J♣ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) T♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §312, Clickr (BB) calls §312
River: (§944) K♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §936, Clickr (BB) calls §936
Total pot: §2,816 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows 8♦ 7♦ 4♠ Q♥ (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%)
Clickr (BB) shows T♠ 9♣ Q♦ K♥ (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 78%, River: 100%)
Clickr (BB) wins §2,808
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §9,267.20 (185 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §7,988.15 (160 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) 3-bets to §450, Clickr (SB) calls §300
Flop: (§920) Q♥ 5♥ 4♦ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Turn: (§920) 5♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §300, Clickr (SB) calls §300
River: (§1,520) 7♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Total pot: §1,520 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 7♦ 9♥ 9♦ 8♥ (two pair, Nines and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 59%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)
Clickr (SB) shows 2♣ A♥ Q♠ T♠ (two pair, Queens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)
Clickr (SB) wins §1,512
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §12,695.20 (254 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §5,252 (105 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 5♠ J♥ 6♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) bets §234, daBOAT (BB) calls §234
Turn: (§788) 2♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
River: (§788) T♦ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §250, Clickr (SB) calls §250
Total pot: §1,288 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 9♠ 5♥ K♠ 2♥ (two pair, Fives and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 85%, Turn: 90%, River: 0%)
Clickr (SB) shows Q♣ 2♠ 9♥ T♣ (two pair, Tens and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 15%, Turn: 10%, River: 100%)
Clickr (SB) wins §1,280
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §5,560 (111 bb)
Clickr (BB): §12,755.20 (255 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) 3-bets to §450, daBOAT (SB) 4-bets to §1,350, Clickr (BB) calls §900
Flop: (§2,720) Q♣ 5♠ 8♣ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §2,712, daBOAT (SB) raises to §4,200 (all-in), Clickr (BB) calls §1,488
Turn: (§11,120) T♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (§11,120) 5♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: §11,120 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows A♠ A♦ K♣ K♥ (two pair, Aces and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 35%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)
Clickr (BB) shows 9♦ 6♥ 7♠ T♥ (two pair, Tens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 65%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)
daBOAT (SB) wins §11,112
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §6,975.20 (140 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §11,324 (226 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 4♥ A♥ 6♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) 6♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §156, Clickr (SB) calls §156
River: (§632) 9♥ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §200, Clickr (SB) calls §200
Total pot: §1,032 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 6♥ Q♦ J♠ 5♥ (a flush, Ace high)
Clickr (SB) mucks
daBOAT (BB) wins §1,024
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §6,547.20 (131 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §11,720 (234 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 7♠ 8♥ K♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) 2♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §312, Clickr (SB) calls §312
River: (§944) 6♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §300, Clickr (SB) calls §300
Total pot: §1,544 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 5♣ 8♠ Q♣ 8♦ (three of a kind, Eights)
Clickr (SB) mucks
daBOAT (BB) wins §1,536
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §5,000 (100 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §14,792 (296 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) 3-bets to §450, Clickr (SB) calls §300
Flop: (§920) 9♥ 2♦ 9♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §200, Clickr (SB) raises to §700, daBOAT (BB) calls §500
Turn: (§2,320) 2♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) checks, Clickr (SB) bets §925, daBOAT (BB) calls §925
River: (§4,170) K♠ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §4,162, Clickr (SB) calls §2,915 (all-in)
Total pot: §10,000 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (BB) shows 2♣ T♦ K♥ K♣ (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)
Clickr (SB) shows K♦ Q♦ T♥ 9♣ (a full house, Nines full of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)
daBOAT (BB) wins §9,992
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §25,849 (517 bb)
Clickr (BB): §5,152 (103 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) 3♣ 5♣ 8♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §234, Clickr (BB) calls §234
Turn: (§788) A♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) bets §780, Clickr (BB) calls §780
River: (§2,348) 8♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
Total pot: §2,348 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
daBOAT (SB) shows T♣ 7♠ A♥ 5♥ (two pair, Aces and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 55%, River: 100%)
Clickr (BB) shows 6♣ 7♦ Q♠ 9♦ (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 45%, River: 0%)
daBOAT (SB) wins §2,340
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§5 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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Clickr (SB): §5,227.60 (1046 bb)
daBOAT (BB): §19,702.40 (3940 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
Clickr (SB) raises to §150, daBOAT (BB) 3-bets to §450, Clickr (SB) 4-bets to §1,350, daBOAT (BB) calls §900
Flop: (§2,720) 9♦ 6♣ Q♣ (2 players)
daBOAT (BB) bets §2,712, Clickr (SB) raises to §3,867.60 (all-in), daBOAT (BB) calls §1,155.60
Turn: (§10,455.20) K♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (§10,455.20) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: §10,455.20 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
Clickr (SB) shows A♠ 5♠ A♥ 4♦ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 55%, River: 0%)
daBOAT (BB) shows Q♠ T♥ 8♥ 7♠ (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 45%, River: 100%)
daBOAT (BB) wins §10,447.20
CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 2 players
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daBOAT (SB): §17,539.80 (351 bb)
Clickr (BB): §6,563.20 (131 bb)
Pre-Flop: (§95)
daBOAT (SB) raises to §150, Clickr (BB) calls §100
Flop: (§320) Q♥ 9♣ 6♥ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) checks, daBOAT (SB) checks
Turn: (§320) 3♣ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §312, daBOAT (SB) calls §312
River: (§944) 2♦ (2 players)
Clickr (BB) bets §936, daBOAT (SB) calls §936
Total pot: §2,816 (Rake: §8)
Showdown:
Clickr (BB) shows 4♠ 5♣ 2♣ 6♣ (a straight, Two to Six)
daBOAT (SB) mucks
Clickr (BB) wins §2,808
I have no idea who is the best cash reg but i have played highstakes mtts and sngs since 2014. Saying someone is the best in the world on this sample is a bit re.ta.rded especially when we are talking about deeper stacks of 80bb+. Apparently people who believe these things fall into one of three categories
1) They dont play for a living
2) They havent seen enough graphs of people winning 5bb/100+ to understand variance
3) They havent run anything in variance simulators
I have been playing mostly 20-30bb poker where standard deviation in bb/100 is the lowest and i had stretches of 15k hands where i was breakeven and 5k hand stretches where my ev was negative, my actual ev over the years is 7bb/100+. If i remember correct Linus went from 200k+ to -150k and then up to 250k. There are times these guys were playing 150bb-200bb poker. You cant say who is the best in 100k hands samples especially when we are talking about deepstack poker
Also the better players are creating better counter strategies, the longer a game goes the bigger edge they will have. Maybe Owen is indeed the best cash reg atm maybe not. I think the challenge would be more ''fair'' if you forced the regs to play x amount of tables x amount of hours for x days. Lets say everyone who wants to participate they have to grind from 9 to 5 playing 4 tables and they will get a random seat in the beginning and/or they will get a random new seat every 4 hours until they reach 150k-200k hands. Anyone who fails to join for 1-2 days for every 20 days of grinding will get disqualified. I am not the smartest person and i am sure someone will find a better way if they really wanted to make a challenge to find out who is actually the best. Props to every regular who chose to battle these games and congrats to Owen
Also the comment about hu is completely off. Yes in some cases player A can be better than player B but loses to player C but the best player always holding the lobbies in hu. What he describes can be true when you go down in the ranks where the difference between no9 no10 no11 can be small. I assume this person doesnt or has never played highstakes reg battles
