Is there still pressure to open up online in the US again?

Is there still pressure to open up online in the US again?

I know, some states blah blah. But with this wacky administration tearing up regulations and federal departments left and right, surely there's more of a possibility of the UIGEA being removed and Don could be given a few backhanders / compliments to lubricate the wheels.

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03 March 2025 at 12:21 PM
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If Donald Trump played poker he would have to be the greatest of all time.


Not gonna happen! I am not a political person at all, but even Don will look out more for specific industries than others, the casino industry being one of them. The best case for US online poker is a bunch of fenced off player pools because the states are addicted to extra tax revenue and want to make sure they get every cent of tax possible in their coffers.


Trump ran his own casinos into the ground. He wont do anything to open up poker in the US again unless Putin tells him to.


Dear chatGPT what are the chances of the US government opening up the portal for online poker with the rest of the world?

Someone is going to have to challenge it and have a **** ton of money to convince processors.


by Blind Burglar k

Not gonna happen! I am not a political person at all, but even Don will look out more for specific industries than others, the casino industry being one of them. The best case for US online poker is a bunch of fenced off player pools because the states are addicted to extra tax revenue and want to make sure they get every cent of tax possible in their coffers.

PA is merging with the current pool that has all the other current states with explicitly legal online poker

I would say #OperationWarpSpeedDonald could give a nonzero chance of expediting the legalization of online poker in other states moreso than the current molasses speed it is moving at

Gov't is corrupt which is why we have the environment we do rn, but for PA to merge with the multi state compact implies to me that the clear best thing for operators is larger player pools. The corruption effectively ruined the pre-UIGEA/UIGEA - Black Friday Era of de facto full US facing poker sites with massive pools and plentiful games running ad infinitum, but hopefully any state that legalizes now will simply hop straight into the multi state compact and the US just slowly gravitates back to the player field sizes that once was

They could have maxed tax revenues by legalizing federally and creating a massive industry in the US along with the creation of untold #s of jobs but politics got in the way. Also, more conservative states are against gambling in general which make them a tall task to buy in and that poker can be listed as a game of skill under a given legal definition probably does not matter


Too much cheating (i.e. collusion, bots, solvers) for there to be any traction. As much as I miss those rushes playing Full Tilt every day, I wouldn't put a nickel into an online poker site ever again.


by TeflonDawg k

PA is merging with the current pool that has all the other current states with explicitly legal online poker

I've been hearing this since 2023 "any month now PA is joining". PA was supposed to happen Q1 2025 and that's passing by. BetMGM has been infront of the Nevada gaming board delaying their site out there for almost a year and half now, not to mention PokerStars who served their punishment doesn't even want to step into the state.

These sites have to be fighting for nickles since they don't want to drag ass opening up shop in other states.


there has never been any such "pressure" for poker.

Poker is the red-headed step child of gaming channels.


by AlwaysJam72 k

Too much cheating (i.e. collusion, bots, solvers) for there to be any traction. As much as I miss those rushes playing Full Tilt every day, I wouldn't put a nickel into an online poker site ever again.

Basically this. I'll still play online occasionally to stay sharp if I haven't been playing live for a while. But legalize it all tomorrow and I couldn't care less. Now if they legalized it all in 2011 I would have been extatic.


by Blind Burglar k

Not gonna happen! I am not a political person at all, but even Don will look out more for specific industries than others, the casino industry being one of them.

Is it lost on all these guys that legal online poker was GREAT for the casinos?


The only hope is that friend of Elon who plays poker, that's it.

I've said it before and I've said it again, the big poker players could form some sort of union or something to at least try, but they don't. I guess selfishness is how you get to the top so what do they care, but no there is literally zero pressure or progress being made


by Army Eye k

Is it lost on all these guys that legal online poker was GREAT for the casinos?

I agree, it just seems like that was where a lot of the lobbying push back came from. No clue why.


by TeflonDawg k

PA is merging with the current pool that has all the other current states with explicitly legal online poker

I would say #OperationWarpSpeedDonald could give a nonzero chance of expediting the legalization of online poker in other states moreso than the current molasses speed it is moving at

Gov't is corrupt which is why we have the environment we do rn, but for PA to merge with the multi state compact implies to me that the clear best thing for operators is larger player pools. The corruption eff

That is great to hear. At least something a little positive. I am in a poker dead state, so when progress like this happens I am one of the last to hear. Yes, politics will ruin anything if given the chance.


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by Army Eye k

Is it lost on all these guys that legal online poker was GREAT for the casinos?

I agree, it just seems like that was where a lot of the lobbying push back came from. No clue why.

Basically, Caesars was the Villain. Their greed knew no bounds, they could not stand that they would not be the "biggest", they could not even understand that online poker MADE the WSOP .... simply look at Main Event numbers over the years. Caesars bought the WSOP from Binions, but had no clue how to maximize it ... fortunately, the online poker industry did.

(In effect online sites could run as many satelites online as they wished 24/7 and across state and national borders meant Caesars was not captain of its own ship. They finally realized that an online site, like GGPoker, could do much better that they ... and GG was willing to py big $$$ to buy the brand for their own.)


by Army Eye k

Is it lost on all these guys that legal online poker was GREAT for the casinos?

Irrelevant in 2025.

These wouldn't be the action packed games of 2005.


by m00sy k

I know, some states blah blah. But with this wacky administration tearing up regulations and federal departments left and right, surely there's more of a possibility of the UIGEA being removed and Don could be given a few backhanders / compliments to lubricate the wheels.

Ideally yeah. But nobody really cares anymore. It's been almost 14 years since Black Friday and we are barely anywhere closer to what we need. Sad


Ring fencing has shown to be better for the cash games anyway - at least in terms of having more beatable games … but I get why RoW players would want Americans to join the pool.


by borg23 k

Irrelevant in 2025.

These wouldn't be the action packed games of 2005.

Doesn't matter. The point is, the existence of online poker does not take away from the poker rooms in the casinos. It's the opposite. Online poker gets more people into poker , who then take their action into the B+M. I'm not promising some kind of boom, I'm saying, anyone who think restricting online poker is 'protecting' the casino industry is simply wrong.


Yeah I would probably set foot inside a casino maybe 5% of what I do now if I didnt start playing online poker


Stars just announced SCOOP schedule for MI-NJ and a separate one for PA.

I wouldn’t be shocked at this point if PA doesn’t join at all.



by AlwaysJam72 k

Too much cheating (i.e. collusion, bots, solvers) for there to be any traction. As much as I miss those rushes playing Full Tilt every day, I wouldn't put a nickel into an online poker site ever again.

If it's regulated not only do you know exactly who everyone is, but you can also hold them liable for cheating.


One thing that would do it would be if it was discovered that playing small stakes poker staved off Alzheimer's to a greater degree than other puzzles or games.


by m00sy k

I know, some states blah blah. But with this wacky administration tearing up regulations and federal departments left and right, surely there's more of a possibility of the UIGEA being removed and Don could be given a few backhanders / compliments to lubricate the wheels.

The Christians are adamantly against it, and Trump has no skin in the game so zero chance.

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