Issue with closed account.
Hello folks, I wanted to know your opinion about this. I'm self-banned from all online casinos in my country (France). They are regulated by the French government, no shaddy sites.
Here's the thing: I don't have a gambling problem but sometimes I lose some money and feel stupid afterwards because I know it's EV-, it doesn't matter if you win, still EV-. To avoid that I told the site in which I played that I wanted to close my account definitely (I was totally clear about that, I said "forever" if I remember it correctly. Today I couldn't hold the urge to play some slots and sent them a message asking if they could reopen my account, they did it and I ended up losing roughly 500β¬.
Do I have a case here to get the money back? I told them I wanted to close my account definitely and they opened it up after some months, something I think they wouldn't have been allowed to do.
What do you guys think?
I don't know any of the laws of your country but you have no case to get your money back.
However if you complain they might super double secret ban you so they don't allow you back next time.
I don't know any of the laws of your country but you have no case to get your money back.
That's not necessarily true. There's definitely been cases where self-excluded players got their money back.
Notable Cases & Precedents
1. UK Gambling Commission Cases
The UK has some of the strictest gambling regulations, and there have been cases where self-excluded players were allowed to gamble, leading to refunds or regulatory fines.
Betfred (2019) – A problem gambler who had self-excluded was allowed to deposit and lose thousands. The UKGC fined Betfred, and the player received a partial refund.
LeoVegas (2018) – The company was fined Β£600,000 for failing to respect self-exclusion rules, and some customers received refunds.
2. Australia (2019) – A casino was ordered to refund a gambler who had signed up for a self-exclusion program but was still allowed to play.
3. US Cases – Some casinos have refunded gamblers when they were found to have violated self-exclusion agreements, but it often requires legal action or regulatory intervention.
Key Factors That Determine Refunds
Was the self-exclusion legally binding?
If the player was on an official self-exclusion list (not just a voluntary account closure), the casino is usually required to block them permanently.
Did the casino violate responsible gambling rules?
In many regulated markets, casinos have a duty to prevent self-excluded individuals from gambling.
Jurisdiction & Laws
Countries with strong gambling regulations (UK, Sweden, Australia) tend to side more with players in these cases, while others (e.g., the US in certain states) are more casino-friendly.
Sounds like you'd fit in quite well in the US.
While youβre at it, you may have a case against 2+2 to get back your 15 minutes you spent writing this post
That's not necessarily true. There's definitely been cases where self-excluded players got their money back.
The snarky tone of my last post might not have come across through the screen.
I didn't mean for the post to come across as a serious opinion.
Anyway if I had to guess I would guess you would be more likely to get back a portion of 500,000 than 500. That's because you would probably have to take the casino to court, and it wouldn't be worth the trouble for 500. I would be shocked if the casino just voluntarily refunded your money.
I think it is trolling, I posted earlier and deleted it for that reason. The OP claims not to have a problem and acknowledges he/she has in the same post and is looking for money back on these grounds.
He/she is either joking around or has no clue which way is up or down.
Anyway add 888 to the list of operators who were punished on these grounds.
Update:
Baffled with the numbers of people thinking I was trolling. I got a refund for the whole 500€ and a apology. They said the fault was on their side and my account should of never be reopened.
Makes sense, I told them I wanted to close my account definitely, pretty clear wording.
EDIT: i think it would of been another story if I had lost say 20k€
Update:
Baffled with the numbers of people thinking I was trolling. I got a refund for the whole 500β¬ and a apology. They said the fault was on their side and my account should of never be reopened.
Makes sense, I told them I wanted to close my account definitely, pretty clear wording.
EDIT: i think it would of been another story if I had lost say 20kβ¬
Why would that change anything? You said you wanted to be banned permanently, it shouldn't matter the amount, no?
Hmmm... You don't have a gambling problem, but you feel the urge to play some slots? Excuse me, but are you sure?
Maybe it's better to look in the mirror and fix your gambling problem rather than asking how to get your money back.
I'm banned from every single casino in France. This was the only one that would reopen my account after haaving told them I wanted to close it definitely.
I could have a gambling problem but I have it under control thanks to being self-excluded from all casinos.
I just don't get why getting a refund was outrageous and uheard of. You're not supposed to reopen an account if the user told you to close it forever.
I'm banned from every single casino in France. This was the only one that would reopen my account after haaving told them I wanted to close it definitely.I could have a gambling problem but I have it under control thanks to being self-excluded from all casinos. I just don't get why getting a refund was outrageous and uheard of. You're not supposed to reopen an account if the us
You are knowingly playing the victim. And, if you are not, you should seek help.
I'm banned from every single casino in France. This was the only one that would reopen my account after haaving told them I wanted to close it definitely.I could have a gambling problem but I have it under control thanks to being self-excluded from all casinos. I just don't get why getting a refund was outrageous and uheard of. You're not supposed to reopen an account if the us
I recommend not asking to have your accounts reopened. If you follow this, you should 100% avoid the casinos
I'm curious if the people posting early in this thread would have responded differently if OP had simply acknowledged that he was a gambling addict.
This will be different in different countries, but many countries have "responsible gaming" laws that require casinos to provide for self-exclusion for a reason.
If there is no consequence for a casino violating these laws, then the laws would be pointless. If a casino has allowed a self-excluded person to gamble, then the casino is legally at fault and compensation for the gambler, who is in this case a victim, should be required.
I'm curious if the people posting early in this thread would have responded differently if OP had simply acknowledged that he was a gambling addict.This will be different in different countries, but many countries have "responsible gaming" laws that require casinos to provide for self-exclusion for a reason. If there is no consequence for a casino violating these laws, then the
I should clarify as the first person to respond. The original post didn't say anything about self-excluding due to a gambling (non)problem.
I would have responded differently if he had worded it that way. He just said he asked for his account to be closed forever. To me that doesn't imply a self-exclusion and would allow for you to reopen your account later.
I'm curious if the people posting early in this thread would have responded differently if OP had simply acknowledged that he was a gambling addict.This will be different in different countries, but many countries have "responsible gaming" laws that require casinos to provide for self-exclusion for a reason. If there is no consequence for a casino violating these laws, then the
It doesn't work that way. They just say they didn't know you were gambling. They can get fined by the gambling board but you won't get your money back. But if you win a jackpot, they will catch you , take the money, and have you arrested for trespassing.
What a nice situation you have. You can just aske sites to open your account and gamble. If you lose just say I want my money back I was suppoused to be banned for life. If you win cashout and enjoy life lol.
wp op, yeah email them and ask them to send funds to your last deposit
It doesn't work that way. They just say they didn't know you were gambling. They can get fined by the gambling board but you won't get your money back. But if you win a jackpot, they will catch you , take the money, and have you arrested for trespassing.
If you are talking about a self-excluded person walking into a B&M casino and gambling without the casino noticing, that might very well be true. But it's a completely different situation. In the OP's case, the online casino had to take a deliberate action to re-open the account of a person they knew had self-excluded. They were clearly intentionally taking advantage of him.
I'm curious if the people posting early in this thread would have responded differently if OP had simply acknowledged that he was a gambling addict.This will be different in different countries, but many countries have "responsible gaming" laws that require casinos to provide for self-exclusion for a reason. If there is no consequence for a casino violating these laws, then the
100%
To clear things up: I spend money that I'd rather not spend on stupid EV- games. I'm self-excluded from every single casino online in France (here the game is regulated and taken seriousoy). I say I don't have a gambling problem because I never lose money I can't afford to lose, I just hate that I lose money from time to time so I banned myself from every casino online. I play poker for fun and I don't care if I loose.
When I want to play poker I know where to go.
It's just dumb to say that they are not to be held responsible after reopening an account that was supposed to be closed forever (so they told me). Come on, if you ask PS.FR or any serious site you tell them "I want to self-exclude myself from this plataforme" they'll do it and won't allow you to reopen your account its too easy I can't believe some guys don't understand it.
A very different scneario would be me walking into a casino and playing trying to conceal that I'm self-excluded. Here it's clear as day: I told them "close my account forever without the possibility of reopening it" and they "did" so, only to reopen it after my first request. Total disregard of the responsible gambling that even GGPoker follows.
You just want to use the loophole to gamble and if you win take the money and run. Nothing else matey.
