Who is the Jennifer Harman of this era
In the Professor, Banker, Suicide King Harman took on Andy Beal heads-up, coming from the cadre of elite nosebleed Vegas players. I'm curious who would fit this bill today? Robbi Jade Lew seems to be a fixture of the big LA games. Vanessa Selbt used to play nosebleed but may not anymore and is Kristen Foxen more of a cash game or tournament player?
It seems like the nosebleed games (200/400+) have shifted to private and since Bellagio/Aria don't really get over 100/200 very often, the private games are obviously a source of mystery.
Jennifer Tilly, Sashimi and Brittany Wang?
For years ending ages ago. He's not a high level player. He's a huge nit who does a lot well socially at the table.
I mean somehow you think Tilly isnt a huge whale bc she can punt Simpsons money whenever she feels like it.
Who do you think is the closest parallel to Jennifer Harman?
She could be whale, so too is Rick Solomon. But she's the only current female who's been in high stakes action for the long haul.
According to High Roller Tracker, Laak is up 460k with a VPIP of 42% over 47 hours on Pokerstars Live.
Melissa Burr is a mixed crusher.
Who do you think is the closest parallel to Jennifer Harman?
She could be whale, so too is Rick Solomon. But she's the only current female who's been in high stakes action for the long haul.
According to High Roller Tracker, Laak is up 460k with a VPIP of 42% over 47 hours on Pokerstars Live.
No exact parallel but probably Foxen.
Ummmmmmmm no. Harman was also playing in and beating nosebleed mixed games consistently for a long time. Nothing wrong at all with saying Kristen and other females are good, well accomplished NL players but i can't think of any woman currently or recently doing what JH did
To be fair, you are comparing different time frames which means the games are very different.
Back when Harmon played there wasn't as much of a difference between cash games and tournament play, now there is a huge difference. Foxen is a far better tournament player than Harmon ever was. That isn't diminishing what Harmon did, it was just a different time with different incentives.
Finally, it should noted that there is a huge difference regarding private versus public games nowadays than there was in Harmon's time. Back then high limit games were essentially private games. So Harmon by definition played in the juiciest games. Whereas nowadays, the juiciest games are private.
Nowadays, in cash games, the biggest skill isn't poker related, it is the ability to be invited to the highest limit cash games. Tilly plays in games that most of us would never be invited to. So many people think about Tilly's skill relative to Andrew Robl when that is the wrong question.
The real question is how would a fairly decently skilled, big boobed, attractive woman do in hugh private games that play worse than your average local $1/$3 game?
For years ending ages ago. He's not a high level player. He's a huge nit who does a lot well socially at the table.
I mean somehow you think Tilly isnt a huge whale bc she can punt Simpsons money whenever she feels like it.
I think you are missing a couple of points.
Playing like a nit is generally insanely profitable until you reach the point where people know you are a nit and fold to you.
I would genuinely love to be able to get into some high limit games and be able to play like a nit. That is printing money.
As for Tilly, I think you overestimate the skill level of some of the games her celebrity status gets her invited to. She is invited to games that never show up on Bravo, yet they play worse than $1/$3 games.
To be fair, you are comparing different time frames which means the games are very different.
Back when Harmon played there wasn't as much of a difference between cash games and tournament play, now there is a huge difference. Foxen is a far better tournament player than Harmon ever was. That isn't diminishing what Harmon did, it was just a different time with different incentives.
Finally, it should noted that there is a huge difference regarding private versus public games nowadays than there wa
Bingo.
Follow up question that I doubt needs it's own thread but does any female poker player(all time) have bazongas even within the range of Tilly?
I think you are missing a couple of points.
Playing like a nit is generally insanely profitable until you reach the point where people know you are a nit and fold to you.
I would genuinely love to be able to get into some high limit games and be able to play like a nit. That is printing money.
As for Tilly, I think you overestimate the skill level of some of the games her celebrity status gets her invited to. She is invited to games that never show up on Bravo, yet they play worse than $1/$3 games
Playing like a nit against terrible players absolutely prints money until they know to fold to you. I didn't dispute that at all. But it's also not high level play.
I've played in some great games where people were just going apeshit every hand, and in those games I played nitty and caught punts. But I'm not gonna pretend it was high level on my part.
Oh I agree she gets invited to some amazing games. I just think she's one of the donators.
Not reading this whole thing but if no ones said Farah Galfond youre ***** up.
no, they're not
There are no female poker players at the same relative level as Jen Harmon was back in the days.
This is the correct answer. Foxen is a great elite tournament player, but I think if she walked into Bobby's room at the Bellagio, there'd be some urgent phone calls being made to tell people to get down there and get in this game, which was never the case for Harman.
This is the correct answer. Foxen is a great elite tournament player, but I think if she walked into Bobby's room at the Bellagio, there'd be some urgent phone calls being made to tell people to get down there and get in this game, which was never the case for Harman.
Foxen got SNE like 3 years in a row playing millions upon millions of hands at 200 and 400nl.
Sure we can argue that was 10 years ago, but the idea that Foxen would be considering a whale in any cash game is hilarious. Especially when people are somehow pretending Tilly is NOT a whale.
I think you are missing a couple of points.
Playing like a nit is generally insanely profitable until you reach the point where people know you are a nit and fold to you.
I would genuinely love to be able to get into some high limit games and be able to play like a nit. That is printing money.
As for Tilly, I think you overestimate the skill level of some of the games her celebrity status gets her invited to. She is invited to games that never show up on Bravo, yet they play worse than $1/$3 games
It somehow reads like you're trying to tell the world Tilly is a crusher of some sorts but she gets invited to these games because she donates. Literally no other reason. Tilly is beyond awful. Yes, even in games that play worse than 1/3 games.
