$75 BB limpfest pre decision
Live MTT, 200/400 with 400 BB ante, still in re-entry period but table hasn't been completely insane with all-ins to this point and we've only had 2 players been stacked through just over an hour of play. Hero is down to 12k from 20k starting, haven't shown down much, lost a couple of moderate pots where we've been raised post and needed to bail. We are in the BB, stack size is after posting. 5 limpers to us. Won't say what I had just yet, but what would your raising range here be, and is any of it a raise less than a jam? Felt at the time to be a really awkward stack to pot situation where there's not much outside of AA or maybe KK that would want to do anything other than see a flop or get it in
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IMO, getting it in is not a good idea since you will be called by a better range and gain only a little by inducing folds (unlike in situations where the pot is already large and you are shoving). Your goal is not to take the pot down now, but to isolate one of the limpers. You have 30 BBs and you can easily raise to 7-8 without totally committing yourself. If you miss fire a c bet and give up. I would raise AA-TT, AK-AJ, and probably KQs here. If the flop is terrible c bet is not mandatory
But what better ranges to we expect to face with five limps?
and gain only a little by inducing folds (unlike in situations where the pot is already large and you are shoving).
Shoving and taking it down adds 20% to our stack.
My standard raise size here would be 8 bb's and I would do it with hands like TT-AA and possibly 99/88. I prefer calling with hands like 22-99 and see if we can hit a set. Since we will be OOP post flop I have no interest in raising SC's or hands like KQ.
I will jam any AXs and most Ax hands because they block AA. I doubt there are any TT-KK/AQ+ hands that limped and I also doubt any remaining Ax hands will call a jam unless they are AA. Ironically the type of hands that limped and might call here are specifically 66-99. So it might make sense to do this with AXs/A8+ but I will often just do it with any Ax. I have no problem re-buying for $75 if we bust.
This is close-ish, there's 2400 in the pot (assuming the SB limped) and we have 12K behind. Normally when you have less than 6x pot behind, jamming becomes a very reasonable option.
I think the jams I would want to have here are hands that are strong, but lack post-flop playability multiway and benefit by seeing all five cards. So I'm thinking a lot of our good Ax (maybe up through AKo) and pairs like 77-JJ really don't mind ripping, picking up the pot a decent amount of time and very often being in decent shape against any limp behind range that decides to flick it in other than the traps.
I do think raise non all-in is an option, maybe go something like 7-BB with QQ+, AKs and some of our wheel suited Ax and our middling suited hands as bluffs where we can sometimes do well post-flop but can easily fold if we get backraise shoved on.
Ok so I had QQ here, just thought this was one of those spots where jamming is obviously profitable and any sort of smaller raise is just too vulnerable in terms of getting into a spot where we're not comfortable OOP
