$5.25 Bounty Hunter on WSOP Ontario
I play PKO's almost exclusively and I've been reviewing my play with a focus on spots that present interesting bounty dynamics (the kinds of spots that you might play very differently than a regular tourney). Not sure if this is one of them. Unfortunately the GG hand histories don't include bounties, but the relevant factor here is that I cover the opener but I'm covered by the flatter. Wondering if anyone squeezes in this spot.
GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 150/300 (45 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit
236da90d (UTG): 19,423 (65 bb)
679e912e (UTG+1): 9,825 (33 bb)
b8601a78 (MP): 24,374 (81 bb)
60b109a1 (MP+1): 10,000 (33 bb)
a17b2b39 (CO): 44,984 (150 bb)
d67c1baf (BU): 8,559 (29 bb)
Hero (SB): 31,049 (103 bb)
129d4377 (BB): 5,389 (18 bb)
Pre-Flop: (810) Hero (Hero) is SB with A♠ T♦
1 fold, 679e912e (UTG+1) raises to 600, 2 players fold, a17b2b39 (CO) calls 600, 1 fold, Hero (SB) ???
13 Replies
I think the amount of your bounty and the opener's bounty relative to the buy in are important pieces of info -- as you stated this is a PKO. Also could help to know stage of tournament (although I'm guessing mid-early based on chip stacks).
I would probably just call against an early position raise and another player who covers us.
I think the amount of your bounty and the opener's bounty relative to the buy in are important pieces of info -- as you stated this is a PKO. Also could help to know stage of tournament (although I'm guessing mid-early based on chip stacks).
It's less relevant in this spot because this isn't a shove/call situation, so I can't directly factor in the bounty value to my ev. I have no idea if I'm going to end up all in preflop and who I'll be facing on the flop.
But yes, it is still relatively early in the tourney.
Ran a brief sim with 100 BBs and the solver folds ATo here 100% of the time, which I found a bit surprising. As you said it's a bad spot due to reverse implied odds.
Maybe let it go and wait for a better spot considering we cover so much of the table?
A10o OOP is a fold here.
Might justify a call from the button.
I think we should only be playing hands that merit a squeeze and that’s something like JJ+ AQs+, AKo?
Ran a brief sim with 100 BBs and the solver folds ATo here 100% of the time, which I found a bit surprising. As you said it's a bad spot due to reverse implied odds.
Maybe let it go and wait for a better spot considering we cover so much of the table?
That is a bit surprising but I guess it confirms my intuition that it's a marginal spot.
A10o OOP is a fold here.
Might justify a call from the button.
I think we should only be playing hands that merit a squeeze and that’s something like JJ+ AQs+, AKo?
That's way too tight. We can play a lot of hands that flop well. ATo is just very hard to flop more than a pair and has strong reverse implied odds.
Its an quick and easy fold. A10 is complete underdog to so many hands. (AK , AQ , AJ , AA , KK , QQ , JJ , 1010 ) And these hands are most likely I
am against . Better to not get into messy and guess making situations after the flop.
Ran a brief sim with 100 BBs and the solver folds ATo here 100% of the time, which I found a bit surprising. As you said it's a bad spot due to reverse implied odds.
Maybe let it go and wait for a better spot considering we cover so much of the table?
The solver does not account for the bounty aspect though, does it? The chip leader would (or at least should) 3-bet AK/AQ at a very high frequency vs 30bb opener in a bounty format, so we do not face reverse implied odds against his range here. I flat and play poker from here.
The solver does not account for the bounty aspect though, does it? The chip leader would (or at least should) 3-bet AK/AQ at a very high frequency vs 30bb opener in a bounty format, so we do not face reverse implied odds against his range here. I flat and play poker from here.
That's true, it doesn't.
I agree that the caller shouldn't have us beat, but I think the reverse implied odds are more against the early raiser. What I'm worried about is we flop an ace and go with it because of the bounty and 90% of the time we are up against the 3 better kickers.
That's true, it doesn't.
I agree that the caller shouldn't have us beat, but I think the reverse implied odds are more against the early raiser. What I'm worried about is we flop an ace and go with it because of the bounty and 90% of the time we are up against the 3 better kickers.
The opener has 33bb and we have 103, I'm not as concerned about reverse implied odds if we get outkicked. In a regular tourney, sure, but I posted this spot because I think it's one that highlights the difference between PKOs and regulars. We're supposed to play looser in the early stages of PKOs because of the added bounty value and the benefit of winning these pots and covering other players at our table.
