$1,000 Super Turbo Event #14 w/$300 bounty Early Spot
~12k eff. 8-handed blinds 200/400 w/400 Big Blind Ante.
LoJack (Newly sat down, 3 hands ago, no hands played with 20k stack)
opens for 1,200. I call in CO with Q♠ J♠ BB calls. 3-handed.
Flop is J♦2♦3♥.
BB checks, Lojack bets 1,200. I call. BB calls. Turn 9♠
BB checks, Lojack checks, I bet 3,200. (6kish left)
BB folds, Lojack calls. River 6d, completing flush and straight draws. J♦2♦ 3♥ 9♠ 6♦.
Villain jams all in.
1. Where all did I mess this hand up?
2. As played, what do you do?
3 Replies
In a bounty it is critically important to know the starting stack. A $300 bounty is 30% of the overall entry fee so if we started with 30,000 chips it is worth 9,000 chips.
Pre-flop is OK. We have 30 blinds and excellent SC. I never 3-bet with QJs because we have to fold to 4-bet jam.
Flop is OK as well. If we jam here flush draws and straight draws will always call especially with overcards.
I will jam the turn. Pot is 7,800 chips so a bet of ~9,200 will win ~26,000 (assuming we started with 30,000 chips). So slightly less than 33% return. With 12 outs they would have roughly 30% pot odds so slightly -EV. If you started with 20,000 or 25,000 chips it is even better for you. If you started with 40,000+ chips you might get called. Even so people might fold with draws in these spots. And if they don't you have very good odds on doubling up.
If this wasn't a bounty tournament I would also always jam the turn because assuming we are ahead few draws will ever call and if they do we are getting great odds to double up. My standard bet size on the turn would be roughly 67% pot or 5,200 which would be over 50% effective stack.
As played on the river since everything got there I likely fold so we still have 15 bb's. By jamming pre-flop first in with that stack we might get some loose-ish calls so I would play a little tight.
I inferred the starting stack was 20k from description of villain and that we have 12k.
Unfortunately all the draws get there so you probably have to fold. And villain could continue with most of them vs. turn bet, and there are a lot he could have. AdKd / AdQd have the overcards and nut flush draw; Ad4d / Ad5d have the ace over and the gutshot; QdTd and Td8d turn open-enders; KdQd and KdTd have the king over and the gutshot; 8d7d has the gutshot; 5d4d has been open-ended with a flush draw all along, if he's opening that (probably not for 3x, but maybe). Just not seeing a lot of bluffs or hands worse than yours here. (Interestingly, the solver recommends largely check-jamming the combo draws on the turn.)
I dunno if your sizing is wrong and you should jam like Rick suggests, or if it's just one of those things where they do draw out sometimes. Jamming's not terrible with all those draws, I guess, even though you can still be beaten by a number of made hands.
Yes, starting stack was 20k, and that’s what the villian had.
I appreciate the help guys. This was my first tournament buyin over $200 so I wanted to make sure I wasn’t being too much of a nit by folding the river, but I couldn’t imagine any 2 cards he could have called that turn bet with and shoved River, unless he’s a complete maniac.
Next time I will look to not leave myself in an awkward spot and consider jamming turn.