Turn Raise / Open Ended

It's easier if you post the pot size in BBs after each street imo. And you're not supposed to post results.

The check call check raise line is ballsy but if he calls that he is probably very strong already. So when the 8 hits I might bet smaller to avoid the trainwreck. Once he raises he almost certainly has an FH.

Also feel free to raise pre with 100+ BBs.

The board isn't paired and he did raise pre.

If you are sure you are only getting your turn cr called by better hands the only way your raise gets your whole stack in by the river is when you lose or hit the 2 outer J on river. If you want to cr do it on the flop.

Raising flop doesn’t make a lot of sense given that the board favours V’s range more than ours.
Raising turn seems fine because that Q improves us way more than them. Having the OESD as back up is good too.
River, seems perfect because now you are playing your actual hand strength and you just made the nuts. Villain makes it way too easy for you by over-valuing his bottom set. You can have all the higher sets.

Don’t share outcomes in the initial post. It’s not important to know what they had - if the specific question is ‘how should I play this turn?’ then give us the action to the point where you are facing V’s turn bet.

Thank you all very much for taking the time to respond!

@LifeNitFL
I can add the pot size for each street 😉

@nath
I agree 😀

@Pokerpops
Appreciated, no more outcome's and only the streets up until the action point, where assistance is needed 😀
I completely agree, I don't think I'm ever check raising the flop in this spot.
I wasn't sure if I was torching money on the turn with a raise (if the turn was a blank, I would just check fold) but I think in hindsight a smaller bet is better because I would torch less with a smaller raise (if the river is a blank, now what would I do situation) I don't think I'm continuing after he calls the large turn raise if the river is a blank.
I'm not a fan of how the villain played the river but happy at the same time which was quite unexpected.

Thanks again for the insights!

Conclusion good raise, maybe adjust the sizing 😀 Thank you everyone.

I'm not sure I agree here.

Aside from the obv. flush draw the board isn't that draw heavy, considering villains possible range. You don't mention the BI, but I guess it's low or mid.

You don't mention any reads on villain, so in absence of that I guess the best we can do is assuming he's is neither very loose nor a nit. A typical player for this BI-levels, although "typical" of course will contain different levels of playing styles and tendencies.

Now, as played: What could we expect a typical player to show up with, once he fires a second barrel OTT?

Pre: From CO I guess he will call with all pairs up to TT. He will probably call Ax suited up to AJs, maybe 3-bet AQs? AQo I believe most players call here. He will call KQ, QJs and perhaps KJs. And a number of SC-hands

Flop: It's of course not easy to determine what hands he will bet here when checked to. It's not a good flop for UTG, so many players might take a stab here with flush draws, some Ax-hands and perhaps hands like KQ. They might also bet TT and 88 for value/protection against overcards. And they will of course bet their flopped sets.

Turn: Once you call flop I would expect a much more narrow range that barrels again into the original raiser. I don't think most players will bluff with Ax. Hands like A9/A5 (if they called pre) would probably just check behind and evaluate river. The same goes for TT/88.

Although it certainly won't be correct for all players I would estimate a typical player's range for betting the turn here will be AQ/KQ/QJ/99/55/33, adding some occasional bluff. Will he fold to your checkraise? I doubt most players would. So in most cases you will receive a call. Or a re-raise from a set.

So: What have you accomplished with your CR? As I see it you have inflated the pot in a situation when you have 8 outs and a less than 20% probability to hit your straight. The more than 4 times out of 5 when the river bricks (from your perspective) you have to fold or try a dangerous bluff. Even when a club hits and you try to represent a flush you might be up against a real flush (AQ, KQ, QJ of clubs) or get called by one of the possible sets. And 2 of your 8 outs might also complete villains flush. What would you have done if the river was 8c instead of 8h when villain re-raised allin?

What happened here IMHO was that you got lucky. You hit your 8-outer and villain was in the top of his range and willing to play for stacks (some villains might have just called here from my experience). Most of the time this scenario as played up to turn will just resulting in you losing more chips. I don't think the ICM value of those few times you actually stack villain will compensate for that.