Tough spot in the mid-late stage of a bounty tournament - did i make the correct fold?
HH Bounty Hunters Fifty Stack $5.40 200/5500 players remaining
Villain UTG+2 37BB ($5.35 bounty)
Hero SB with TT 40BB (13$ bounty)
Villain UTG +2 opens 2bb
Folds to Hero in SB who 3bets to 6bb
Big Blind Jams 11bb (($5.31 bounty)
Villain 4b Jams all-in
Hero?
Firstly, I think my 3b here was too big and i should have sized around 5.2bb - do people agree? On the merits of calling, since Villain didn't have me covered I think he has a very nutted range that has us completely dominated more often than not. I decided to make the fold, Villain showed 99 & BB showed 77. Ultimately i thought this was too much of a marginal spot, even though i would have been chip leader if i called and won. What do people think, was this an easy call or correct fold?
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I don't mind the sizing, you can size bigger out of pos around 3 - 4.5x their open because you want to give him added incentive to fold as you will need to play x3 streets out of pos which will be unprofitable for you. In pos 2.5 - 3.5x is fine to illict more calls as we are in pos and can play profitably.
One thing to realise, in these bounties you have added incentive to call allins because of the added equity of the bounties. This goes for your opponents as well as yourself so don't be suprised when your opponents show up with weak holdings when they call an allin, often they are getting the correct odds because of the added value of the bounty means they can call off pretty wide and still be profitable.
If we are 5 handed here, TT is very strong. I don't think I would fold because utg looks like he is trying to iso the bb all in with what could be a wide range.
In a bounty this is far closer to a call than in a normal mtt, so I would call here and pray. Some of the time they both have underpairs and some times one has AK the other AQ and we run clean.
Good reply. My answer was going to be "I would call because the opener could be reshoving reasonably wide in order to isolate the short stack and try to win the bounty."
TT is also an inflection point where your equity goes up against two overs by a fair bit since you block many more straights. Like I think 99 vs AKo is like 55% and TT is nearly 58%.
I'd also 3-bet bigger since you're in the SB, not smaller. 3x at this stack depth is fine in position, since, well, you play the rest of the hand in position so there's less incentive to take it down immediately or reduce the SPR. 4x is probably correct here.
Don't show results, it can skew responses.
Any thoughts about flatting the open with the 11bb stack behind? While as a covering player you do want to get more aggressive against openers you cover, you also want to play more pots against stacks you cover.
Medium pairs drop in value significantly in PKOs because they lose so much value in multiway pots. TT is right at the borderline for me here. There are two important considerations that might lead me to let this go: 1) Neither player has a large bounty so their contribution to the ev calculation is going to be reduced; 2) UTG+2 can cripple you here. You've outlasted 5300 players and have a healthy stack - I think this spot is just too marginal to risk being crippled.
When I do the math in bounties in spots like these I want to know what the starting stack is (in terms of current bb's). The bounty is worth the buy in so I would add that starting stack size to the overall pot odds.
I'm guessing I would call here because I'm not too worried about the first jam with 11 bb's (though somebody will always be calling) and the UTG+2 can still have a AJ+/66+ kind of range.
Also, my 3-bet size preflop would be 8 bb's
I have seen people go absolutely wild in bounty tournaments to win a very small bounty (shoving 50 BBs with second pair type stuff), so I would lean toward calling here. But I think it's pretty close and not a terrible fold or anything.
