Sunday Million $330 Bounty Spot later, what should be my calling range if I get HU?
Pardon me in the case I'm in the wrong thread here but I'm just a silent reader usually...
I had some run-good yesterday and was able to pull into day2 with a shortie to my immediate left with 10BB and $330 bounty. I got 16BB and a measly bounty of $62.
I'm never able to run up a stack into Day 2 usually or I'm covered by everyone on my table so I never bother to even look up these things... so I was wondering what my calling range against this guy should be later on when he's pushing from UTG and Im in the Blinds? So far he acted solid, nothing out of line and he doesnt seem to be in any desperation to get it in right now.
These are the current payouts with 152 left, I aim for the payjump and then all gloves would be off. It will hit rather quick cause 9 people have just 8 or less BB.
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A5o would always be a flip vs JTs, a threeway all-in vs A5o and KQo would be 3-way flipping here, 36%, 32%, 32%.
What do I call HU? Any suited ace? suited broadways?
Thanks to the guys that know how to make the math math.^^
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I believe the way to calculate this is to add the value of the bounty to the expected value of your stack currently (prizepool / number of players * (your stack / avg stack)).
What I look at in a Bounty tournament is what the bounty I could win is worth in terms of starting chips. If it is a $330 bounty tournament and the bounty is $110 (OK I know that never happens but it will make the math easier right now...) then if you can win a bounty I would add 1/3 of the starting stack as if it were in the pot. In this case because the short stack has a $330 bounty I would just add the starting stack size to the pot when figuring out the pot and implied odds.
In the case of progressive bounty tournaments (PKO?) it will matter what the bounty is worth as a % of the entry $ amount * the starting stack size.
I see what LifeNitFL says above and maybe that is better I don't know. But I always consider the chip amount as a % of the starting stack because we know what each chip is worth in terms of bounties based on the entry fees. As the average stack size gets bigger and bigger the bounty (if it was say $110) would have less and less of an impact for me. In a PKO it might matter because the size of the bounty could get so high that it would still make a difference late.
The other thing that I have no idea about is mystery bounties where the average bounty size could be used (but again its sort of like the lottery...). When I play in a mystery bounty I usually pick the second lowest bounty amount (which if you include the lowest prize is usually about 80% of the bounties). But if you go deep and the big one is still out there (especially with a couple of other big ones) then I might think higher because it is less of a lottery and more of a Big Stack can win a bunch of bounties and possibly the one that is worth more than 1st place.
I was playing in a Venetian bounty tournament where the bounty before the money was $100 and after the money it was $500 which happened to be like the min cash amount. So when we got in the money I made the ridiculous play of calling a small stack jam followed by a another jam by a stack that was 10,000 chips more than I had. I had JJ and the big stack had AA and I managed to win the hand (and the $500) with a J on the flop. That was followed by the next hand where the guy with 10,000 went all in (for basically 1 bb and there were 5 callers when I had 98o in the SB so I called and the flop was 998 and I won two more bounties (somebody had 96o). A guy tank folded with probably JT on the flop which saddened me.
My thoughts on your post are that playing for the next payout level here is not what I ever do. In tournaments like these I would try to go very deep while still calculating odds based on bounty sizes.
I think you need to give us his bounty, not yours, to do the math, unless it’s a different type of bounty tournament than I have played. Given the next pay jump is the same as “your” bounty, the other small stacks and that the next pay jump is 8 spots away (and flat for 39 more) I would consider the act of laddering up one spot easier than winning a bounty.
