$2000 WSOPC Live, We empty the clip
Been trying to find more bluffs
$2000 WSOPC Main Event, We are in the money, but very linear payouts
Hero 1.6M
Villain ~650K
blinds 10k/20k w 20K BB ante
We are 8 handed
Preflop Hero has Kc 6c MP
Hero raises to 45K, Villain calls in CO, blinds folds
Flop: 9d 5s 4h
Hero bets 55K, Villain calls
Turn: Ts
Hero bets 150K, Villain calls
River: As
Hero shoves (villain has about 400K back)
Love it? Hate it?
Think we need to do it some of the time. I think if the villain has something like 9s 8s, it sucks, but I think I can easily get them fold out 77, 88, 9x.
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It's horrendous but.... You can do literally anything especially live if you have really really realllllly good reads.
Ballsy. Weak players will puke fold JJ here. Id expect better players/pros will sniff this out though. Iām trying to think of natural bluffs to take this line. Somethin like 87 and QJ I guess? My point is that K6s is way outta the box with this line. With the right reads I love it tho.
Obviously I would prefer to have a Ks or Qs or some blocker. But I think the river has to be better for my range than his.
Nahhhh.... Don't even think about blockers. If you're gonna do this its a massive exploit that's it. If you know their exact hand or know they are capped like you know they jam all their value on turn with lowish spr and are extremely unlikely to have gotten here with a fd then ok go for it and go for it with your entire non value range and do something completely different with your value.
I would have bet 45k on the flop and I would have check/folded the turn because we didn't improve. Also we block the original straight draw and there was no original flush draw. But then I'm not as good as you are...
I've been watching a lot of WPT final tables because it turns out we have Hulu and I have had some time. And this is the kind of thing that super amazing players do. They do get called when Villain has a set or two pair or a back door flush, but Villain's are always folding single pairs here (except for Aces).
So 9x hands here will be folded (except for A9s which there are few combos).
I also think that with the T on the turn Villain will raise a lot of their strong hands because a lot of potential draws came into play for you. And it is true that Villain would potentially call the flop bet with two spade overcards (or 9Xs) but they would do the same with hearts and diamonds and they would call the turn with a pair.
When I make bluffs on the river I tend not to do it when an A hits because I typically always get called and lose to a an AXs hand. But that hand was on some kind of draw (usually flush). Here it is unlikely that is the case. It could be AhTh/AdTd but again not many combos of hands that got there with two pair. A9/A5/A4 got there but then I'm not sure A5/A4 is calling the turn bet. A9 might also fold on the turn because it looks like you have TT+ or a smaller set.
I guess the best reason to do it is because we would be bluffing the turn with hands like AK/AQ/AJ and flush draws and it is extremely unlikely Villain has Ax hands that have no pairs.
What are we representing that bet the flop and turn and then shoved when an ace hit? Very hard to call 3-barrels though.
I could have 2 pair (AT, A9, T9), all the sets, QsJs, KsQs. KsJs
Possible that AK, AQ might bet (villain does know that I won't bet Ax)
I think the main thing is that we are obviously going to concede the pot if we check and the villain is going to have a tough time calling the river.
I feel if we take this line with Kc6c, we are bluffing our entire range.
Really crappy blockers but I like it because you probably get a few overfolds.
But you need to be thinking exploitatively to consider this.
Once you decide to bet turn, river should be trivial--don't bet turn with this combo unless the plan is to bet every single river in an heavily exploitative basis.
