MTT bb/100 question
Hello, I'm not much of an MTT player these days but do find them enjoyable to play and think about some of the theory behind them. What do you think is an evbb/100 one should target there? I'm aware of ICM implications and do know +chipEV play is often not the best, but just curious about whereabouts the average should be for clear winners over significant samples?
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First things first, EVBB/100 is not a good, but still one of the best implications to look at, at how you are doing.
Still it's more scuffed than most people think IMO.
You can be a great player in the early stage and thus have an overall of 10BB/100+ (that is where most judge you are beating your current games at a huge good extend), but still most can come from the early game, depending on the site sometimes 300BB deep at the start, where people just "gift" you chips (depending on the stakes you play). It also depends what kind of stakes you play, which you didn't put into your post. In stakes up higher probably a winrate of 5-6EVBB/100 is pretty decent for the field, while in microstakes it would show there are quite some leaks in your game (overwise it's really hard to not get to the ~10BB/100 Range). Just some info missing
So depending on the stakes you play, a much butter option would be to look for someone looking over your game, may it be DB-Review or just handhistory-reviews. But it also varies alot wether you are playing $1 MTTs or $50ABI, this info unfortunately is missing
Generally something around 3-8bb/100 means you are playing the stakes you should be playing. If its lower, expect huge swings. If its above 10, you should probably add few higher stakes tournament.
I also really like FckRegulation's tip on getting a DB-Review. If only there was someone doing those...
First things first, EVBB/100 is not a good, but still one of the best implications to look at, at how you are doing.
Still it's more scuffed than most people think IMO.
You can be a great player in the early stage and thus have an overall of 10BB/100+ (that is where most judge you are beating your current games at a huge good extend), but still most can come from the early game, depending on the site sometimes 300BB deep at the start, where people just "gift" you chips (depending on the stakes you play). It also depends what kind of stakes you play, which you didn't put into your post. In stakes up higher probably a winrate of 5-6EVBB/100 is pretty decent for the field, while in microstakes it would show there are quite some leaks in your game (overwise it's really hard to not get to the ~10BB/100 Range). Just some info missing
So depending on the stakes you play, a much butter option would be to look for someone looking over your game, may it be DB-Review or just handhistory-reviews. But it also varies alot wether you are playing $1 MTTs or $50ABI, this info unfortunately is missing
Thank you for you're response! Yeah I was just asking generally how much MTT players keep an eye on their bb/100 graphs when reviewing. Ofc shoul be taking eff stacks and stages into account. I'm essentially trying not to look at too much what's going on with that early stages and deeper stacked then.
I play smallish field R/A and freezeouts, ABI around 17 with rebuys and add-ons, but haven't managed to play more than just about 150'ish tourneys so far so not that much data. Am planning on having someone going through my DB after that. No KO's at all since I think it's a bit too much to study those in addition to cash and standard tourneys right now. The pool is probably as soft as the smallest possible games on global sites.
Generally something around 3-8bb/100 means you are playing the stakes you should be playing. If its lower, expect huge swings. If its above 10, you should probably add few higher stakes tournament.
I also really like FckRegulation's tip on getting a DB-Review. If only there was someone doing those...
Thank you! Can't say for sure if I'm actually long term profitable despite my results at the games I play so just need to play more, and keep on reviewing. Then come back and ask some outside review, and in the meanwhile just keep on working on the most critical $EV spots I might be spewing right now. It's just that I often find myself deep stacked in FT's so I think it could be worth studying MTT's more in case I start finding cash a bit boring.
