Push Fold Charts
So a while back I recall there was a site called pushfoldcharts which showed the push fold charts. I don't recall exactly how much bb it went up to but I think it was 15bb or 20bb.
Then a bit later I recalled there was an app called floattheturn app which allowed you to check out push fold charts on your phone and I find that better as it's easier to play around with it as oppose to on the computer. What I liked about the app was when it showed the push fold, it would show it like AJo+, A10s+ etc as oppose to it showing the calls in like a chart where it shows the color of calling or folding etc.
I recall there was an app called snapshove which worked similar and I think it even offered something better things like if 2 people shoved though I'm not sure if it was like that or not. However, you needed to pay for the app if you wanted to check how it was for 8 players or 6 players and different antes. I paid for it and used it for a bit and I recalled some of the push fold was a bit different from Jonathan Little's floattheturn app. It seemed to be a bit looser for push fold and I recall I read somewhere that the ranges were wrong? Does anyone know if that was true or not? Well eventually I stopped using the app because of that. I then used the floattheturnapp only. The only issue is floattheturn only goes up to 15bb. A bit later, I recalled that the app no longer worked and a new app was created called the poker coaching app which is the same app like floattheturn. However, I don't recall what it is exactly but I recalled floattheturn was a bit faster.
I noticed recently that I keep getting a JSON Parse error, Unrecognized token message on poker coaching app and thus the push fold app does not work. Does anyone here have this issue? I am not a member on that site but I did find the poker coaching push fold app good to use. Does anyone have an issue with it at the moment? The thing is if you are a poker coaching subscriber, do you have access to a better push fold calculator like it would show push fold up to 20bb or so? What I like about this app as you can make it 8 players or 6 players and different antes like up to 25%.
Does anyone know what happened to snapshove? When I open the app, I can't even use anything. I recalled back then when I paid for it, I could use it but is that app no more of use or you have to pay like a monthly or yearly subscription to use it now? Thus they went like the HEM subscription method where you have to pay monthly or yearly as oppose to a one time thing?
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I checked out the app store on the iPhone and there seems to be other apps. One that I downloaded is preflop+poker gto nash charts app. I notice that if you want to check out rejam or different antes for push fold, you have to pay for the pro version. Does anyone find this app good? I do notice for the antes, they are limited as in 20%, 12.5% and 10%. So they don't have 25% or 16.66%? The other thing is when you play around with the free version, you can only use 9, 6 or 3 players only but all the push fold seem just show ranges that are green, red, pink or white and it shows a number to it. I know the bigger the number the more profitable is a call but does anyone find this app not as good compared to poker coaching where it would show the push fold to show something like this?
A10s+, AJo+, KQs+, KQo, QJs
Does anyone find the above much better than the way this app has it? I want to use an iPhone app where it's pretty much like poker coaching app as it's very easy to play around with it for push fold. Does anyone have any recommendations for an app like poker coaching for push fold? Also, do these apps require you to pay a 1 time fee or is it a monthly fee? I want a push fold app for up to 20bb. Now something additional like rejam and range for calling 2 all in's in whatever position would be nice as well.
The poker coaching paid version has GTO charts, so it includes small raises, calling ranges, etc. There's no ICM and the charts don't allow for multi way situations (other than a beta multi way for cash only). So you can see SB 3-bet range vs CO open, but they don't have an option for SB range after CO open and button call. Tournament includes different stack sizes up to 80 bb, then there are 100 be and 200 BB for cash.
Regarding the error you're getting have you tried uninstalling, re-downloading and reinstalling? That might help.
The GTOwizard free pre flop is also pretty good. They don't have every stack size without a subscription though and it's pretty hard to navigate quickly, in my limited experience with it.
I used to use that pushfoldcharts.com too and miss it. Charts were simple and free.
How much does the poker coaching paid version cost? Is it monthly or yearly? The thing is I only want a push fold chart similar to the poker coaching app on the iphone and have it include up to 20bb or even 25bb but have rejam and like calling ranges for 2 shoves. Like imagine someone shoves utg for 8bb and say button jams for 20bb. Say you have 12bb, what would be the range to call both shoves. Does the paid version of it have that or not? The free poker coaching push fold app on iphone is nice except it doesn't have those things. Does it show like what you call with to say a rejam from another player of 20bb or 25bb depending on your position?
I can't find the GTOwizard on the iphone app store? Or you mean it's only on the website? Does it have push fold and rejam similar to the free poker coaching push fold app on the iphone?
Yes the pushfoldcharts site was good. The issue is it was a website and not on the phone. I prefer it on the phone as it's easier to play around with.
How much does the poker coaching paid version cost? Is it monthly or yearly? The thing is I only want a push fold chart similar to the poker coaching app on the iphone and have it include up to 20bb or even 25bb but have rejam and like calling ranges for 2 shoves. Like imagine someone shoves utg for 8bb and say button jams for 20bb. Say you have 12bb, what would be the rang
Pokercoaching is kind of expensive if all you're using it for is the charts. I think it's like $100/month but they run specials a lot and you typically pay less if you pay for more than a month at a time. I've been paying $199 every 3 months and they've sent me offers to reduce the cost to $600/year if you pay all at once. Honestly I've been thinking about cancelling as they don't make new strategy videos as often as they used to, and I've mainly just been using it for the convenient charts and preflop drills.
They have calling ranges, but only for action involving two players. Ex) You can view a 20 BB range as button following SB 3-bet jam, but you can't see how your range would change if SB jams and BB calls in that spot.
I'm not sure if gto wizard has an app, but you can view it through the browser in your phone. Certain stack sizes are locked for paid customers only, but it does allow for multiway action, which pokercoaching doesn't. The main problems with gtowizard is the browser configuration is clunky and the paid subscription is expensive.
I'm sick of subscription models. I just want a good app I can buy once that would have all the charts I need.
I would only want to use the chart. I don't really care about the videos so that is a lot to pay for a chart.
The preflop + GTO Nash chart app from the iphone app store seems like you could buy it full or pay monthly etc. However, the way they display the push fold isn't that good. Like it doesn't show it the way poker coaching app does and instead it shows everything with colors which I'm not a fan of. Like green in the boxes is call and others are fold. It's not as better as say compared to say 1010+, AQs+, AQo+ etc. Would you agree on that?
So the paid poker coaching app can show what is your calling or reraising range if say utg shoves 10bb all in and LoJack goes all in for 30bb and action is on you no matter where you are at next? But if another player rejams all in even if it's for 3bb, it wouldn't show what you should call here with? Say the effective stack is 30bb and you have say 20bb etc.
What is the exact name of the GTO wizard app on the iphone? I can't tell which it is. There are so many apps there.
The thing is I want a push fold chart like the free poker coaching app on the iphone except it can go up to 20bb or 25bb but have a rejam or what you do with say 2 others are all in. Now having a chart for say 3 players all in for whatever BB would be nice but I would like to have a chart for calling 2 shoves.
Everything seems to be a subscription model now. HEM used to be a one time paying thing and then you no longer could use older HEM and have to buy new HEM. But you have to pay a yearly fee to use it now etc. I paid for snapshove a long time ago and I think it was $20 or so but when I tried to use it, I don't think it works anymore as you can't even check anything. Do you have any idea if it's even supported? I'm not sure if they went to subscription model now?
I would only want to use the chart. I don't really care about the videos so that is a lot to pay for a chart. The preflop + GTO Nash chart app from the iphone app store seems like you could buy it full or pay monthly etc. However, the way they display the push fold isn't that good. Like it doesn't show it the way poker coaching app does and instead it shows everything with
I prefer a color heat chart, kind of like poker coaching, because I use it for more than just shoving ranges. I also want to know what range should call, 3-bet small, etc.
I tried to explain what poker coaching can do in my post above, but it's somewhat confusing. If someone shoves 10 BB it doesn't tell you when you should shove a 30 bb covering stack, only whether you should call or fold with 10 bb yourself. If UTG goes all in then LoJack goes all in over the top it WILL NOT tell you what to do in the remaining positions. If UTG opens, LoJack jams and it folds back around to UTG it WILL tell you what your calling range should be. It only supports spots where no more than 2 players take aggressive actions.
As for the other apps, I said I don't think GTOwizard has an app as far as I know. I've only used it by going to the website (which can be done through your phone browser).
I never used snapshove so I'm not sure if it's still supported.
I tried to go to pushfoldcharts.com last night and the domain is for sale so it looks like that site no longer exists.
I'm surprised there aren't any more good options on the market. Actually I'm pretty sure there must be but I don't know where.
I know Bencb has charts but I don't know if they're any good. I once heard they're exploitative not GTO, but I'm not sure if that's true.
GTOlab has preflop drills. I've tried it and it's solid for that purpose, but I'm not sure if they also have charts that you can just refer to quickly.
There is zero reason to use pushfold charts in 2025. pushfold is extreme simplification from times where we didnt know how to simulate postflop play. Now we can. So just use the free preflop ranges in GTOW which will have bunch of raises (or limps) above 10bb. And especially for BvB it is important, because at 10bb effective SB limps A LOT.
I know Bencb has charts but I don't know if they're any good. I once heard they're exploitative not GTO, but I'm not sure if that's true.
No, they are not even exploitative, thats just the marketing story for recreationals, they are just plain bad.
There is zero reason to use pushfold charts in 2025. pushfold is extreme simplification from times where we didnt know how to simulate postflop play. Now we can. So just use the free preflop ranges in GTOW which will have bunch of raises (or limps) above 10bb. And especially for BvB it is important, because at 10bb effective SB limps A LOT.No, they are not even exploitative, th
You don't find gtowizard clunky when you're just trying to quickly check if you made the right call when you open off a 20 BB stack from the CO and SB rejams?
