good jam with KT?
Pacific Poker - 1600/3200 Ante 400 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 8.03 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.95, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 158)
UTG: 15.43 BB (VPIP: 30.97, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 552)
MP: 1.71 BB (VPIP: 35.59, PFR: 11.09, 3Bet Preflop: 13.61, Hands: 604)
CO: 4.43 BB (VPIP: 49.09, PFR: 23.64, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 56)
Hero (BTN): 3.59 BB
SB: 76.19 BB (VPIP: 43.68, PFR: 2.47, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 87)
6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has K♠ T♦
fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3.47 BB and is all-in, SB raises to 5.94 BB, fold, fold
Flop: (9.69 BB, 2 players) Q♣ 6♣ 5♥
Turn: (9.69 BB, 2 players) 5♠
River: (9.69 BB, 2 players) 7♥
Hero shows K♠ T♦ (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 26%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
SB shows K♦ Q♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 74%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
SB wins 9.69 BB
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I have some questions regarding how you got this short, and what the tournament situation is, but barring some extreme ICM effect, I would think this is good enough when you're this short to go with it.
Don't post results if you want better answers that aren't influenced by them.
I have some questions regarding how you got this short, and what the tournament situation is, but barring some extreme ICM effect, I would think this is good enough when you're this short to go with it.
I was on the bubble with about 8-10 bb and I was 6th and top 6 cash while the 7th guy wouldn't die with that fraction of a bb so i kept blinding down and I was pretty card dead.
So if this is 6-handed, does that mean you're in the money?
Yeah, maybe you should have shoved something earlier before the bubble broke, but this is an easy shove with 3.6xBB.
The interesting wrinkle here are the MP and CO short stacks and their stats. We see an example of that with the CO limp/folding here off 4.4 BB! There is some chance you could fold and ladder to 4th because they will punt their remaining chips in some way. But you are so short and out of time that getting it in here is probably fine too. I guess it would depend on the payouts and how quickly they punted their chips. I'm not gonna calculate it, but I imagine getting it in here is still OK.
I used my free gto wizzard and it said the guy before me should've jammed or fold so if you count his check as a fold then i should've open jammed with KTo
I used my free gto wizzard and it said the guy before me should've jammed or fold so if you count his check as a fold then i should've open jammed with KTo
I might be misreading this but if you mean the previous limp (and not check) I would eradicate this line of thinking for future spots where you are short stacked but still have some chips left behind to fold. Treating limps as folds then jamming our open jam range is erroneous, especially at low stakes where, in my own observations, a healthy chunk of those limps are weak aces, small to middling pocket pairs, and random broadways, which all rarely fold and have a good portion of our open jam range beat or have good equity against it. A lot of the point of an open jam is our fold equity, which deteriorates against a limp. Plus they have the occasional trap.
As played with the amount of chips you have it's probably fine. I would personally have folded and tried to ladder up over the two lunatics giving their chips away.
Because we now have more chips than CO (unless he wins this hand after limping in) I probably fold. Especially because MP will be UTG and then BB, and will be all in in one of those two hands. And CO hits the blinds before we do.
Because we folded into the money our strategy is basically to make as much as we can. So I would continue to fold unless we have a hand that stands a very strong chance of winning.
My range here for jamming after the limp is probably 99+/AQ+.
Given there was a limper with slightly more chips than us I don't like KTo as a jam. I would absolutely consider it if CO had folded and we were first in. The only problem is that SB has us covered by a lot and BB also has us covered. And MP has two hands left to survive...
At this point in the tournament we have a decent shot at 4th and if we can double up, even at 3rd. I would much prefer to play hands that will double us up most of the time.
Yeah, looking at it again, it seems like a fold. Two short stacks hit the blinds before you do.
You are pushing into the mega stack, which can call light. Plus the BB would be getting about 2.3-1 and should call with like 80% of hands.
Maybe should have pushed earlier with FE, despite the bubble and being card dead.
I fold because of the short stack limper. It's a good opportunity to let a sub 5 BB stack get involved with the two bigger stacks and you could potentially ladder up a spot. There's also a good chance that the MP player with 1.7 BB could get eliminated before the blinds get back around to us, so there's another chance to ladder.
I didn't see the short stack limp. That is a weird play. Definitely a fold then.