WSOP Ciruit Main Event Hand - After Reg has closed
Blinds are $3KSB/$5KBB($5K ante). After registration has closed and probably 70 people or so from cashing and 120 away from bagging for day 2. Largest circuit event ever with over $2.5 million in the prize pool. Avg is around $130K so doing fine with close to $200K stack. When we came back from last break a new player was at the table. Young gun with $50K stack. His first button he went all in and collected blinds. Next hand folded to him and he went all in again. A few hands later he shoves and all fold and he is up to $90 or so. He then opens an early position hand to $15, gets 3 bet and folds. Only hands I remember seeing before this hand.
He is UTG and open shoves and has $75k. I'm middle position and look down at AQ spades. I have button, SB and BB behind me to act. What is the best play here?
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I jam here because we are far from the money. Villain has been jamming a bit and is opening wide. He bought in for 10 blinds and is willing to double up or buy back in it seems. If he has a PP we are flipping for the most part and we do block QQ and AA.
You didn't mention stack sizes of BTN, SB, and BB but it wouldn't matter to me. I would hate to call and play this OOP because we are going to miss a lot of the time on the flop. And if somebody had a huge stack and would call wide (like with 66+/AK) so be it
Curious where this was? I'm guessing this was the $1, 700 main circuit event.
It's probably either a call or jam. It's relevant how deep the three players behind you are. If they're not a whole lot deeper than the player who jammed, then it's a pretty clear jam. If they're all deep stacks that cover you it's a little more complicated, and there could be merit in a flat to leave yourself an option to fold in case of extreme action behind, like two additional all is or something like that.
I think I just rejam here. I might in some cases worry about the 15x shove but this guy has jammed that large once already and also 3xed off a short stack; I don't think he necessarily has his ranges and sizing on point here.
given how you described it, i can't see any other choice than jam, if he or someone left to act has better than AQs then good for them
I did jam, all others folded and he ended up having KK. Someone I respect said it is an easy fold. I didn't think there was a world where i could fold there.
I wouldn't expect to see KK, which should just raise/gii with 15xBB.
Against a push/fold chart UTG 15 BB shoving range, your hand is never folding (assuming no ICM effects).
In reality UTG should be opening to a small, non-all-in size with most of their range from early position, so you have to make some assumptions about what it means when he jams.
Against typical live players, when they jam more than 12 bb or so from early position their range is often stronger than a push fold chart. Most often I see people turn up with strong but not nut hands, like 88-JJ, AJ+ type hands. The absolute strongest hands like kings and aces are usually raising small to try to induce action.
Regardless of what a typical live player is doing there, given your description of the opponent as someone who had been shoving aggressively, AQs should still be plenty strong enough against any reasonable range you would put them on given the information you had at the time.
I might in some cases worry about the 15x shove but this guy has jammed that large once already and also 3xed off a short stack; I don't think he necessarily has his ranges and sizing on point here.
Well, I guess I was technically correct.
How is the average 26 bb in a main event still kinda mid stages? Yikes that’s a terrible structure then.
Hmm easy call. Is he doing this with AJ or A-10? Would look at it as does he does this with a hand you pip by one or two. Think this is a fairly easy call. Bad luck you lost. Do you run into jj or worse pairs here? Yup. Are you playing to win?
Even when you run this into a Nash calc, it’s a plus ev call even if utg jams and you are utg+1.
I wouldn’t listen to friend that said it’s an easy fold. Sounds like a clueless person lmao. Think people in poker need to learn how to realize who knows something vs who doesn’t.
