2/2 live - AA with nut flush blocker, very deep
Hero $6000 2/2 live
4 handed with AAK7dd with the naked Ace of spades and A7dd in $10 straddle utg (mandatory straddles)
Btn $25, sb call, bb call, hero $125. Btn and sb call.
Btn has $4000, sb has $3000
Flop ($400) Ts7s3h
Sb x, Hero $250, btn call
Went a little smaller considering I have a pair on the board and As which gives them less hands to continue. Though they both might call with worse fds, open enders, and/or a pair. So I should've bet bigger like I normally would imo. ~$275 to ~$325 seems better.
Turn ($900) Th bringing a bdfd and pairs board
Hero?
V is a 38 year old fish who's inherited a lot of money and has barely worked a day in his life. He plays for fun and doesn't think logically about value hands/bluffs, but he's not a maniac or whale. He also never has a straight up bluff unless it's a small pot, only semi bluffs (wrap + fd type of hands). He's the type to be very sticky with hands like a 9 high fd, a pair, oesd, and other hands he shouldn't be calling with. But he's not crazy loose where he will always call with an oesd if the board pairs or a flush gets there.
I considered checking since I'm OOP and have sdv. But I think against this V I might feel better bet/folding than x/calling. Though x/f is an option as well if he pots it. I could maybe get folds from his hands with equity that might x back or still get value from those hands like oesd and/or fd. He should have more draws/worse hands than Tx with two on the board and me having a 7. I think he doesn't bluff enough if he misses the river and I x. Against some of the better players that play here I likely x but V plays pretty face up imo. Problem with the bet is it bloats the pot. But I can name my price, block bet, and keep the aggression. Thinking bet my AA/Tx and check most other hands since I shouldn't have many boats in my 3bets on this board.
Hero bets $500 (pot is $900). If I have a boat or Tx I would size up, but V isn't a thinking player that would figure this out, so not a spot I feel I need to balance. I can be exploited by good players with this line and but here it seems fine.
Though trying to think ahead, unless the river is an A idk what I do on the river either way if I x/c turn or bet turn. Was also thinking I could turn my hand into a bluff if a spade gets there and I pot river. V is sticky but not as sticky in huge pots. He can def fold a 9 high flush or Tx on a paired board to a $1900 bet if the flush gets there.
Thoughts? (Sorry for the long post just want my whole thought process in here. Pick my brain a little)
5 Replies
I would check the flop with this combo, and I can get behind checking the flop with my entire range here as we are oop to the button.
Why do we b55 on maybe the worst turn in the deck for our hand? This just reeks of fancy play syndrome to me. Sure he might be sticky, but we're deep and if he calls here (or raises) and then bets the river we are just absolutely dead on any non-ace and maybe non-ten river.
As a general rule of thumb, I try not to get into insane leveling wars when I'm really deep with someone. Just check the turn and take it from there.
If you think he's going to be very honest and not bluff without a ton of equity, then we get a ton of information from what he decides to do. Also he did call a flop bet from a player who 3! then bet the flop and turn oop multi-way. Unless he is an idiot, he knows you have either a strong draw or a strong made hand (I would think you are way stronger than you are). Just check the turn and decide (I'd fold facing significant heat).
Good stuff above ..
I'll mix betting and checking this Flop. Ace of flush is good card to have, but if Vs are calling down with midrange flushes then lean towards checks since bluff wont work as often .. if at all.
Since we did bet Flop, I don't mind betting Turn either. Let's play some poker .. but again, if the V is playing 'cards' and not poker then it could very well be fruitless. I'm giving up a lot if B calls down Flop bet and then we'll evaluate any Turn or River bets.
If you are betting the Turn, you are less likely to have Boats on this Board , so all Wraps are still alive, eh? And then you're stuck in a bloated pot on the River OOP where it's much easier to get blown off your hand.
With checking, or even smaller bets for more pot control it's possible that we could x/c some Rivers against this opponent. GL
Would prefer just a hand history followed by your POV tbh, makes it painful to read otherwise.
Check flop.
Prefer betting the flop to get this HU and you have the nut flush blocker. There's a couple ways to look at the turn - if you bet he probably folds all worse hands so you're really just betting to deny him equity. On the other side of the coin if you check you allow him to bluff spades/etc but he now realizes his equity and you're guessing whether he has Tx if goes bet/bet. Thinking about it I'd probably just bet again - don't like having to guess the turn/river or allow villain to do as he pleases.
Betting the turn (especially for that size) seems suicidal. You block flushes, block 7. Seems like an easy x/c if villain is aggro or x/f if he is tight. You have a marginal hand, no need to bloat the pot on a paired board, when villain easily has trips, might have a boat. Even if the river is a spade, no guarantee you NF blocker will be any good on a paired board.
