Habitually Turning Trips into a Bluff

You aren't bluffing - you have the nuts straight. My thoughts are:

• what do you think you have?
  
• why do you think you are bluffing?
  
• If you are bluffing, what hand beats you that is going to fold?
  

Basically, I don't think your thought process makes sense here.

Also, I think your hand plays better by checking this flop.

Well, there’s three to a flush on the board and three rounds of betting in a 4w flop pot, so it’s def not crazy to bluff with straight+trips as you can get flushes to fold, block boats and also: what else are your bluffs otherwise? You can’t really get to this river much with less than trips.

I think for this play it’s important to understand the ev of the bluff and what our opponent should roughly be folding/calling.

Generally bluffs on paired boards tend to be fairly low to neutral ev and exist in equilibrium only because you need bluffs. So in a game like this I think the approach is to only bluff if you consider it generously plus ev, not because we should bluff some trips according to solver.

Because we have a straight and opponent is a lady fish that will just check back plenty of non boated trips rather than bluffing them we have some SD value so that’s a strong argument for checking here.

However maybe we have some reads as to whether this player is weighted towards flushes over trips in this hand. Not saying this is the case, but that could be a strong argument for bluffing.

I guess I could check and try to take my straight to showdown against trips. I was trying to bluff out flushes and small full houses. But I doubt a lady fish would fold 88xx to me.

Will that player always/usually raise 98 and 88 on the flop (it is up to you to answer that, as you have played with her not us)? If yes, river bet is a slam dunk, as her river range will be overweight towards flushes some of which might not even be nut flushes (fishes of all genders love their straight flush draws lol)

I would fold pre - hand is trash, OOP multiway - think you get into more trouble here than anything. I don't see the point in donking 40 OTF 5 way - think I would check/call. So the turn/river is really based on population tendencies - we'll of course get our opponent off a chop, but do they fold all flushes? Can you get the nut flush to fold? If the answer is yes then this works, if the answer is no then I hate it.

Edit - I would also say avoid what the "solver" is saying and use live population plays as the way to make decisions. Live play is so erratic at these stakes that your play here can be great or terrible regardless of what the solver says.

Bet much smaller (but not tiny) on river. Fold immediately to a raise.

Do not try what I'm suggesting against a non-fish.

Against fish with certain predictable tendencies, check-calling on the flush turn and donk-leading big on many/most rivers can be better. If you are in fact bluffing at that point, be sure to verbalize "pot."

Game flow and villian are extremely significant, but i find it to be a mostly harmless philosophy

You are getting 8-1 and are closing the action and want to fold in a live lineup with 600-1 implied odds and the possibility of making several straight flushes? If you face sufficient trouble with this hand to outweigh the implied and direct odds then you're very likely a loser in this lineup, or at very least leaving chunks of money on the table. You should not be bringing the 'safety first, solver likes tightness in multiway spots, don't court unnecessary variance' lines of thought into deepstacked, live play. You should be looking for excuses to play napkins rather than excuses to fold a hand that can flop the world.

The flop line is really bad. Betting less than 1/3 on the flop with a hand that wants value/protection into 4 other players is a wasted opportunity.

As played, don't really see a lot of value trying to bluff a fish on the river when we lose to all flushes and better boats. I wouldn't have ever gotten to the river with this line, so I'm not sure on my preferred line.

I feel like I have to unlearn a lot of bad habits from the solver I was training with last year (Omaha Poker Training). Is there a better solver that I can quickly train tens of thousands of hands with that's inexpensive (i.e. not PLO Trainer/Mastermind)? Or do I just have to put in a ton of live hours and slowly fix my bad habits?

(While at work, I'm playing 2c/5c on Ignition. I'm uploading hands into FlopHero's Replayer for review. I'm not sure I like the FlopHero solver either.)