QQ97ds 3bet pot
7 handed 2/2 plo
In CO with QQ97ds with clubs
1 call in dark, folds to me, pot to $45, folds to a reg in bb who pots to $155, hero calls
Heads up he's $1000 eff. He plays NLH/PLO for a living. He would do that with double suited AXXX and other hands.
Flop ($335) K66cc
X x
Turn Tx
Bb $110, ?
Double gutted, clubs, and a Q could be good. We could be drawing dead tho or in very bad shape. We block wraps but he could still have that. I'm not sure if he checks or bets with KK or AA on flop.
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Some better idea of preflop frequencies would help, i.e. is he gonna look at a dark call and then an isopot and iso super wide or is it going to be a premium range?
Barring other information turn seems like a fairly easy call. Too infrequently drawing dead, you can have all the KK and TT so he has to be careful and can't just blast away and hope you're not trapping.
You can’t fold, you can’t raise.
Hero calls
River ($555) Qx
BB bets $250, hero?
He has very few underboats here. If he plays all TT and KK that he gets here with the same, he's got way more combos of KK than TT in his b/call range. And unless you have reason to think he's expecting you to bluff-raise, he's unlikely to b/c AJ, particularly given your line looks strong. 1/2 psb is decent value already, just call.
Just call, raising stacks are us way more than him.
Way too passive, bet flop or raise turn. A big part of his range AA, AK is gonna have a hard time calling down.
Preflop action suggests there is $35 dead money in the pot. Is there a $5 ante?
This matters a lot for weighting ranges for both players. Dead money worth several times the blinds should encourage lots of early aggression.
Or is there just some weird rule that defines "pot" preflop as much larger than it actually is? This should have the opposite effect, making people play tighter and trappier.
Preflop action suggests there is $35 dead money in the pot. Is there a $5 ante?This matters a lot for weighting ranges for both players. Dead money worth several times the blinds should encourage lots of early aggression. Or is there just some weird rule that defines "pot" preflop as much larger than it actually is? This should have the opposite effect, making people play tight
I see 'dead money' being oft misused. It's only dead when there's a sidepot that can be stolen. If I put money into the pot, and there's still you and another guy in the pot, that money is not 'dead' just because I've folded.
There seem to be various different weird rounding rules to do with pot size, this is probably one of them. Why should it be the case that people open tighter and trappier when you can make a slightly bigger than pot-sized raise?
I see 'dead money' being oft misused. It's only dead when there's a sidepot that can be stolen. If I put money into the pot, and there's still you and another guy in the pot, that money is not 'dead' just because I've folded.There seem to be various different weird rounding rules to do with pot size, this is probably one of them. Why should it be the case that people open tight
Slightly bigger? A pot size raise with 2/2 blinds and a limp would be to $10, and he made it $45. That's a huge difference.
Your definition of "dead money" is far from standard. Antes, missed small blinds, etc., are "dead" according to everyone but you.
Preflop action suggests there is $35 dead money in the pot. Is there a $5 ante?This matters a lot for weighting ranges for both players. Dead money worth several times the blinds should encourage lots of early aggression. Or is there just some weird rule that defines "pot" preflop as much larger than it actually is? This should have the opposite effect, making people play tight
Did not realize I forgot to put that there is a mandatory $10 straddle UTG
Slightly bigger? A pot size raise with 2/2 blinds and a limp would be to $10, and he made it $45. That's a huge difference.
Your definition of "dead money" is far from standard. Antes, missed small blinds, etc., are "dead" according to everyone but you.
I have no clue what's going on with the blinds.
Everyone else is wrong 🙄 money does not know or care who was responsible for folding the hand connected to that money nor does it affect our decision. $1 is $1, and it's all alive until it's dead
For what it’s worth I think check/call/call is fine.
I don’t agree with a flop stab in this specific spot with our exact hand, what do we think we are going to fold out apart from random broadway rundowns without a K.
Don’t like raising turn with zero blockers to the board and **** draw, seems spewy AF.
And yeah obv can just be drawing dead the whole way vs KK / AAcc / 6xxx etc.
