QT43ds 3B pot

QT43ds 3B pot

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PL Omaha 1(BB)
HERO ($135.50)
BB ($228.48) [VPIP: 18% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 45.8% | Flop Agg: 38.5% | Turn Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 7.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 91]
UTG ($183.99) [VPIP: 53.7% | PFR: 9.3% | AGG: 21% | Hands: 110]
HJ ($100) [VPIP: 18.6% | PFR: 11.8% | AGG: 47.6% | Hands: 103]
CO ($132.08) [VPIP: 54.5% | PFR: 27.3% | AGG: 12.5% | Hands: 12]

Dealt to Hero: 4 Q 3 T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $3, BB Raises To $9, HERO Calls $6

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.03 effective]
Flop ($18): 7 8 J
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($18): 7 8 J K
BB Checks, HERO Bets $17.10 (Rem. Stack: $109.40), BB Raises To $68.40 (Rem. Stack: $151.08), HERO folds

why did i bet turn? lol
well really bc i didnt expect villain to check twice with T9, for one i have a blocker and for 2 it would have to be a T9 combo with redraws, QT9x with clubs probably checks here some %. JJ wont check twice unless in QJJT but now villain is x/r and merging? i mean QJJT with clubs or AQT9 with clubs makes sense but i hold blockers to those too.

thoughts on turn? i would play flop the same with T9 as well, i want to give opp a way to catch up some on such a dry board so i dont mind checking back here with nuts.

if i check turn, and river is a blank and villain checks again are we just showing down Qhi and giving up? this is why i took the bet line on turn to give myself an opportunity to win the pot on some rivers as x-flop, x-turn, bet river will get hero called more often than x-flop, b-turn, b-river.

29 November 2024 at 10:18 AM
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Bet the flop. We should be betting at a high frequency when the OOP 3bettor checks, particularly on straight boards where the new hand class interferes with OOP advantage in over pairs. This is a good candidate with some robust equity but not enough to sweat a bet-fold, blocking nuts, and double be fldr for barreling across more runouts. Should also improve your outcomes with T9. Bet nearly all of those too.

As played, you're repping fairly little and size seems too big. Half pot works fine, I think, once you cap your range with the flop check. Don't hate the fold but prolly better not to bet.


How do you act last from the SB? You have the button on SB? There's no SB probably?


by Imaginary F(r)iend k

How do you act last from the SB? You have the button on SB? There's no SB probably?


dead SB. im the BU, idk why drivehud didnt put it in HH, i actually didnt even notice until i read this. lol


by Munga30 k

Bet the flop. We should be betting at a high frequency when the OOP 3bettor checks, particularly on straight boards where the new hand class interferes with OOP advantage in over pairs. This is a good candidate with some robust equity but not enough to sweat a bet-fold, blocking nuts, and double b


makes sense, so maybe better to check a hand like JJT9 or KQT9 with 2 bdfds? i mean i should have some super nuts in my check back range, preferably ones that block my opps turn improving range. if i have no blockers like say T986, this should be bet at 100% freq since i unblock JJ and Qx that can call a bet.


im just trying to understand situations a little deeper, been doing alot of work lately on range construction and really trying to think about hand structures for those ranges.


the "as played" part is spot on, i currently only have PSB as a probe sizing which i know is a problem so im working on that too.


Having a nut blocker, weak nut draw and some backdoors I’d start by half potting a flop that is better for your range than his.


Flop is a nice stab, with a blocker, range advantage, and outs.

Turn would prefer to check with no pair, 7 nut outs, and a further 7 i think 2nd nut outs. It's now a dangerous board for both of you and he can c/r quite wide especially if he thinks you can find a bet/fold.


by wazz k

Flop is a nice stab, with a blocker, range advantage, and outs.

Turn would prefer to check with no pair, 7 nut outs, and a further 7 i think 2nd nut outs. It's now a dangerous board for both of you and he can c/r quite wide especially if he thinks you can find a bet/fold.


so are we bet/folding flop? this is my dilemma. lol


in my mind, in game..
i think to myself "this hand has alot of play ability, i should check back here and play some turns."


Turn comes.. Villain checks again, i think " hmm...double check, maybe just naked AAxx? i should stab big and just follow up on all non-pairing turns."


villain x/r pot.. i think "why tf did i bet? oh let me just gut punch myself..knucklehead, can i call here..?" countinues thinking.. " probably not, price is ****, holding a blocker is meh vs this massive x/r, he prob only has T9, or JJ w/FD here."


Hero Folds..tags hand and posts 45 seconds later..


do you have a predetermined thought process?This is for anyone that reads this tbh not just specifically you wazz. It seems like this is a recurring thing for me when playing 4 tables or more. im trying to figure out a way or a pattern to my thinking or something like that. idk does what im saying even make sense?


by thegibson k

so are we bet/folding flop? this is my dilemma. lol


in my mind, in game..
i think to myself "this hand has alot of play ability, i should check back here and play some turns."


Turn comes.. Villain checks again, i think " hmm...double check, maybe just naked AAxx? i should stab big and just follow up

With only a gutshot and a single blocker, why when you bet and get raised on the flop would you do anything other than fold? It's an appealing bet because we have a lot of range advantage. it's an appealing flop to bet because with no draws out there other than gutshots and boats, it's one we're very unlikely to get raised on, so we very frequently get to realise not just our gutshot but our backdoor equity; a flop bet is also more believable than a turn bet, i.e. you can of course have flopped the nut straight and check it back, there could be a few combos i could see doing that with, but when we check back this board, we largely cap our range. On top of that, there are lots of hands he could have like AAQT with a flush draw or something where he just shrugs and check-raises.

Predetermined thought process? Not really, in that I haven't consciously formulated a plan for how to think about hands, I've just been playing poker a while


by wazz k

With only a gutshot and a single blocker, why when you bet and get raised on the flop would you do anything other than fold? It's an appealing bet because we have a lot of range advantage. it's an appealing flop to bet because with no draws out there other than gutshots and boats, it's one we're ver


this makes sense, i rationalize not betting by telling myself that this hand doesnt want to get x/r and blown off equity so just check.

I tend to forget just how BIG of a range we actually hold here. this is a hand that needs to bluff flop because we have future equity. i imagine thats where alot of my postflop issues stem from aswell.

this board i will have T9xx,JJxx,TTxx,99xx,88xx,77xx, bd NFDs with nut gutters (AQTx,AKQx), sucker wraps like 965x,654x and a gang of other hands that will be glad to take a turn. (excluding T9xx, i think we want to bet almost all of them unless its like KQT9 or JJT9 with bdfds).

by wazz k


Predetermined thought process? Not really, in that I haven't consciously formulated a plan for how to think about hands, I've just been playing poker a while


honestly this is something that is recent for me. Ive never had a problem with not "thinking" it through but recently (idk if its just because of how im running,playing,life,etc) but this has been happening alot the last month or so. ive been playing the better part of 15 years and never had an issue. Now i go on this tear to -60bis roughly and im questioning everything now including my own thought processes. probably time for a break lol


Try to remember to factor in how likely you are to be check-raised i.e. is he going to want to blow you off your equity with a thin c/r or does he think you're polar and he should c/c down

You're probably playing on autopilot. Sit on your hands. Consciously vary the time you take to think through hands on the basis of how big the pot is.

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