Suited Rundowns, Multiway, OOP

all in and pray ... what else??

I mean, this is probably the best flop possible for you, wrap with flush draw and backdoor flush draw.

Let's say (worst case) you're up against top set 6s and and overpair with nut flush draw, then you till have 10 outs for the nuts, while blocking full house and flush yourself.

if they have only something like made str, set or 2 pair, and no flush draw, then you are even huge favorite. plus you're getting something like 2.5/1 on your money

ps: depending on who of the 2 villains has the flush draw, you might even win a side pot and be breakeven in case you loose the main

So what 50ish in the pot before rake?

I like a flop lead as a) it's a better texture for you than button and probably also the double defending CO, and b) in this config with the bigger stack in between I think leading exerts max pressure on CO middling range. Size is critical here you want something less than half of buttons stack so that if he chooses to shove it reopens action for you.

What kind of question is this lol?

There is no decision here!

Yall are acting like this is an easy decision but how to word our prayers has been the subject of thousands of years of debate, so it's less settled than it might sound at first

Boy if you don’t hit that pot button just stop playing or drop down stakes. There is no decision here.

You should be more excited than anyone to get your money in not wondering if you can hero fold lmfao

I also think hitting that pot button is correct. But it's not as obvious as you might think. Let's try to break it down in some numbers. Therefore, we assume @Pokerbros_Player's worst case scenario which is one villain having top set with no draws and the second villain has a nutflush draw only (No overpair). I also want to point out, that in this specific situation raw equity is the only think that matters. In this case, there are 3 possible outcomes on the turn: We hit our straight, we miss, but are still alive or we are drawing dead. Out of this three outcomes you can again break down the probabilities to the river. See the attached image. For the sake of simplification, we do not consider the probability of any specific ranges, which would be the actually correct way to do it, nor do we consider the possibility of a straight flush draw on the turn. In this case, if we add the favourable probabilities for us (highlighted in green), we have a 25% probability of winning this hand. If we calculate the actual pot odds we're offered, we need at least a 34.5% (Or roughly 2:1) equity to justify the "pot-button". Nevertheless, as already mentioned, this calculation does not consider ranges, main-/sidepots or straight flush possibilities, which might shift the "pot-button"-play to be the highest EV play. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm open for discussions and I'm more than happy to learn.

I just found some errors regarding the outs. River-outdrawn-outs are 16/44, not 28/44 and river blanks are 28. Probabilities are still correct!

I‘ll upload a corrected image tomorrow.

I promise on my entire life roll none of you have ever been or ever will be in a poker game of any kind and/or variation where not absolutely jamming this hand as fast and as hard as possible will be anything less than a +50bb/EV decision.

My entire life roll

How am I more excited for the player than the actual player.

SHIPPPPPPP EEEEEEEEEEEETTTT

let me put it in really simple terms:
If you don't put it in here, better go play NL Holdem.
Case closed.
;-)

I was excited and I did hit that pot button, don't get me wrong :-D I just thought this situation might be worth a little discussion and could maybe be less obvious than it actually looks. :-D

A more meaninful discussion is

“Do I have a leading range on this board or do I risk this flop going XX and missing value in order to check raise”

Or

“Can I 4b this hand with dead money in the middle or is it strong enough to just call sandwiched in the middle between the 3b and field caller”.

Theoretically, the CO can have some shitty aces here as you opened from EP and can 5b rip now that you flat.

Also, do you have a leading range on this board as the RFI from EP? Do you have enough pair plus FD or str8 combos in an EP RFi Range?

thank god ... so we can welcome you back into the church of PLO (after almost excommunicated you) ;-)))

happy easter

If I ran this sim correctly:

Above is our range's overall strategy. I gave monker 3 sizings (can obv play around but shouldn't change EV much). Prefers small or pot. This is actually a very good board for button's range in terms of EV share. Even though the button's 3bet range won't hit this board much, the problem is neither does EP's rfi nor co call vs ep range. Given all ranges are heavily devoid of small cards the button gets to leverage its' AA range advantage.

Above is your combo - solver wants to heavily check. My guess is because checking allows the button to overplay some of their AA or KK, or even K high flush draws on this flop whereas if we just straight pot, we allow both player's to play their ranges more easily. This is obviously stacked on top of this board not being good enough for EP's range to create a healthy asymmetry between bu's 3b range. When we check, we allow both players behind to make mistakes. We also don't need to worry about turns given we're basically never folding a flush unless it goes pot, pot, then back to us. We allow an A or K to fall on the turn if it gets checked through, allowing both ranges behind to improve and potentially stack off. But main reason we don't get to lead with this combo is we just don't get to lead much at all combined with this board not hitting ep's range enough imo.

I just took an edible and am pretty baked right now as well so hopefully all that **** up there makes sense.