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I don't mind a flop check here. For betting, we block a lot of their bets when we check, so we build the pot, deny free cards yada yada. We have some playability across a few big turns. For checking, were oop with no interaction on many runouts meaning we will suffer playability problems when called that we might mitigate keeping the pot smaller. Checking may lead to kr for value. On balance I think it's close but lean check without bd flush draw that gives us more playability across runouts. What we have isn't enough. If betting, I don't B100 here instead choosing B50 or even a little less.

As played, I check this turn. Too deep, nothing in hand telling me to bet. He gets the benefit of position this time. I'm def calling against a milky sizing but facing pot can sometimes find a quick quiet fold against the described read.

Didn't mention hu vs mw. like the check more because it's mw. heads up leaning bet.

I like the bet on the flop. I don't mind building a pot -- don't know if pot is necessary. Vs. this type of player, check/call the turn. I'd hate to bet and have to fold.

I think you definitely need to bet the flop and turn - he could have some 468 combos but there's also 68/77/55/two pair combos you get value against.

Pretty appealing spot to check our entire range on flop, potting looks incredibly strong. Def checking turn and seeing a river

Without redraws I like checking my top sets multi-way OOP to XR if we are at an SPR I can jam the turn or get the money in over 3 streets with a XR.

When I have redraws and backup/blockers I like leading OOP with top sets multi-way as we can play a multitude of turns and rivers given how our hand interacts with the board.

I would check to XR this hand specifically as we have no backup and benefit greatly from reducing the SPR as much as possible to make turns easier to play.

If it checks through that’s ok as well and we go into passive mode OOP on bad turns.

As played I don’t mind betting this turn. While we don’t block the straight, 64 is the dummy end of it and shouldn’t be too prevalent in anyone’s range. I’d only check if I knew villain specifically plays garbage ranges and this would hit him more often than not. I wouldn’t pot though I’d prolly half pot this turn.

Vs someone described as 'very straightforward and loose passive' we're missing a lot of value by not betting the turn. If he were more liable to jam 689 with clubs I'd consider checking, but this player type does a lot of calling here. Hia range to get here consists of a lot more weak draws and made hands than others, so giving a free card or cheap showdown loses a lot of value, never mind the range he'll keep on chasing with.

It sucks that he never bluffs which means we have to think a little more about bet size, but if we take that as a 100% read we've got plenty of space to pot-fold. In practice I'm probably betting under to account for doubt. Probably ~$200

What do we hope to happen after we check?

What's our response if an opponent bets?

Do we kick ourselves if it checks through the flop?

Indeed. If he has 64, we'll find out pretty fast for a price we set. If he has set/2p then we get value out of him.

Obviously our dream scenario is the river gives us boat-over-boat after we've spent 2 streets building the pot.

We're 5 ways to the flop, lots of stuff can happen. We have the nuts so obv we want someone to bet so we can c/r

The problem is this most likely checks through a lot of the time - no one is betting 5 ways without a hand and that hand would call our bet regardless. Furthermore if we do check,someone bets, we xr, we're sort of announcing having the nutty hands on a texture like this where they can get away from say bare 55,bare 2 pair,etc.

Then why wouldn’t we XR a lot of hands here like wraps around the Q with 2BDFDs, wraps around the 75 with a BDFD or 2, etc.

If people are open folding hands like top 2 and middle/bottom set to a XR here we have liberty to blast when we block a hand like top set or have clear vision on a multitude of turns.

Ya there's a massive universe of hands in the 4-9 range who will call a bet on the flop but will never lead out.

checking here seems like we're just letting them off cheap and/or letting them get free cards for slim draws.

I didn't read the other comments, but I've seen you make these full pot bets on flop, I presume to "protect" your hand, but it is just a big mistake. I actually tend to be grateful of opponents who play like this because it makes my life so easy when I have marginal spots that I can just easily fold. Whereas if you had bet smaller, it puts me in trickier situations and gets value from all sorts of weaker parts of my range. The other big downside to making this type of bet is that any time the board changes on the next street, at that point, you end up turning your hand face up and can be bluffed with impunity. It's just overall just about the worst flop strategy you could use. Particularly in multiway pots my entire range isn't betting more than 35% or so. But given we are first to act and it's like a 5 way pot, I prefer checking.

The other thing betting small there does is that it induces bluff raises and value raises from weaker hands that would have just only called your PSB.

What we find in solvers is that, whenever we are OOP as the preflop raiser, in NL and PLO, checking about 90% of our range is recommended. You could even just check 100% of your range in those situations.

The literal reason you're asking this question of what to do on the turn is because your flop bet is so big. If I was gonna bet the flop I'd just bet like 25, then if the one guy calls, turn pot would be 125 and I'd bet like 65-70 on this card, and if they just only call again, I'm again going to be betting like 1/2-2/3rds pot on rivers that aren't 4 6 or 8. You can actually take this same line even if the board was like QJ9-4-3 with no possible flush and can get paid off by worse. The trick is just keep your range wide at all times and don't over-define it by betting too large on flops and your winrate will take a huge leap.