Top Two Got Cold-Called on AJ8dd
Top Two Got Cold-Called on AJ8dd

Top Two Got Cold-Called on AJ8dd

Live 1-2

UTG folds
EP folds
MP [Hero] raises to 15 with As Kd Js 6s (750 stack)
HJ new player calls 15 (500 stack)
CO folds
BTN folds
SB fish calls 15 (150 stack)
BB folds

Pot 47

Flop Ad Jd 8h

SB bets 25
Hero raises to 125
HJ tanks, then calls 125
SB calls 125

Pot 422

Turn 2s

SB checks
Hero shoves for HJ's remaining 360

Is this pretty standard? Or did I somehow mess this up?

27 July 2025 at 09:17 PM
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by bigoilboomer m

Live 1-2

UTG folds
EP folds
MP [Hero] raises to 15 with As Kd Js 6s (750 stack)
HJ new player calls 15 (500 stack)
CO folds
BTN folds
SB fish calls 15 (150 stack)
BB folds

Pot 47

Flop Ad Jd 8h

SB bets 25
Hero raises to 125
HJ tanks, then calls 125
SB calls 125

Pot 422

Turn 2s

SB checks
Hero shoves for HJ's remaining 360

Is this pretty standard? Or did I somehow mess this up?

This is a fold pre. Imo, this is okay at your stack depth, but if you were deeper, it would be a mistake.


by PLOTheoryGod m

This is a fold pre. Imo, this is okay at your stack depth, but if you were deeper, it would be a mistake.

Which would be the mistakeβ€”the flop raise or the turn shove?


Just ran this hand through a solver. Interestingly, it says to call the flop vs. 30bb stacks, and sometimes raise (half pot) vs. 100bb stacks. I thought it would be the opposite.


by bigoilboomer m

Just ran this hand through a solver. Interestingly, it says to call the flop vs. 30bb stacks, and sometimes raise (half pot) vs. 100bb stacks. I thought it would be the opposite.

Not sure, but it really depends on preflop ranges. SB cold calling ranges at 30bb are going to be super tight. It's not really realistic for your actual game.


Fold pre

As played, raising otf is good because villain is short and to potentially drive out the HJ behind us. Surprised to hear the solver output...

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Don’t fold this pre in live PLO lol. Hands like this perform bad in theory due to having to fold to 3Bs from EP due to position but live people criminally under 3b and this hand is a slam dunk open given its properties.

Theory wise SB has no leads on this board so unsure why they are, especially when you have the Kd NFD blocker. They should have a lot of wraps but if they are gonna lead exploitatively it should come with a NFD so this is where knowing theory helps you in live PLO. Why is he leading?

The flop raise by you is fine with the NFDB in theory. Sizing is a bit too big. 75-100 is plenty.

Overcall from HJ is concerning. He should either be ripping or folding. If he’s not ripping prolly leans more towards draws.

Turn is a blank, no issues ripping here for value vs HJ.


by Echemondo m

Don't fold this pre in live PLO lol. Hands like this perform bad in theory due to having to fold to 3Bs from EP due to position but live people criminally under 3b and this hand is a slam dunk open given its properties.

Agree, use solver ranges to form a baseline for what is unexploitable and then vary from that to the degree the game you’re in dictates. Just strictly following solver ranges esp in soft games is incorrect and costing you money if you do it.

Also even if you want to follow solver ranges this is an open. The only triple suited combo it folds is AKJsss and opens the other 2.

Postflop looks fine, sometimes we’re ahead, sometimes beat, sometimes chopping


by LucidDream m

Agree, use solver ranges to form a baseline for what is unexploitable and then vary from that to the degree the game you’re in dictates. Just strictly following solver ranges esp in soft games is incorrect and costing you money if you do it.

Double agree. Can't fold hands like this in live PLO. You'll get constantly harassed for playing too tight.

I like to open my range to include hands that solver says are -0.2 or -0.3bb EV. In a 5-5 game, you're only giving up a buck or two pre. But you're more than making up for that buck or two 1. post-flop or 2. with a looser image.


by PLOTheoryGod m

Not sure, but it really depends on preflop ranges. SB cold calling ranges at 30bb are going to be super tight. It's not really realistic for your actual game.

I ran it as CO open, BTN call, BB call.


by bigoilboomer m

Double agree. Can't fold hands like this in live PLO. You'll get constantly harassed for playing too tight.

Yup. They will start calling you names and take your lunch money!

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