How often do you cbet OOP in SRPs at 100bb effective?
How often do you cbet OOP in SRPs at 100bb effective?

How often do you cbet OOP in SRPs at 100bb effective?

As an example, here's CO's leading range vs BTN on Q75r.


My feeling is, if BTN is cold calling too wide, it's probably okay to cbet a lot more than the solver, especially with a smaller sizing.

However, if BTN plays GTO, are you losing too much EV by just checking range on all non-A high unpaired flops? In practice, I think a human would struggle to implement a 10% leading range.

08 August 2025 at 11:35 AM
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You're mixing in the words "cbet" and "leading" but it looks as if you're talking about the scenario where we pfr CO and BTN flats pf....then what are we cbetting correct?

So a few things to think about on any board is how wide is this BTN calling our opens, some guys are still fairly tight and some guys are playing nearly every hand on their BTN. Once we have a good sense of this we need to see how we interact with the board and then choose if we're going to cbet or not

If we're going to cbet we then have to consider sizing and how future streets will play out. WO going into every detail, the smaller we go the more we can expect many people to call so we need to be considering how often we will be able to barrel turn

If we bet small it is likely called a high % and now we have to navigate turns with whatever our range is OOP. So instead of just cbetting a wide range here for 30% pot we can take our weakest hands with little to no board interaction and just c/f them and take our stronger hands and hands like 88/66 for example that interact well with the board as blockers and cbet them for a larger bet as we will be able to barrel turn much more often. If BTN makes the mistake of peeling close to the same range vs our larger bet size as he would vs a smaller bet size we are making a lot of money in this spot as our flop cbet range will be quite strong in terms of ability to double barrel

Also if we try to break down our range too much into something like a 1/3, 2/3, and full pot size cbet we are going to have such a complicated range to dissect into these 3 sizing groups, most players are not going to be able to balance their ranges properly/profitably to do such a thing as future streets and our board interactions on those streets have to be considered for each range


by LucidDream m

You're mixing in the words "cbet" and "leading" but it looks as if you're talking about the scenario where we pfr CO and BTN flats pf....then what are we cbetting correct?

I thought cbet is when you're PFR, and lead is when you're OOP, so they can be used interchangeably when you're both PFR and OOP? Or does lead specifically mean OOP but not PFR?


Lead is generally interchangeable with donking. Like you're in BB and defend vs BTN open and you "lead or donk" the flop. If you're pfr and you bet flop you're always just cbetting


Button cold calling wider shifts his line on the rvr graph a little to the left, but doesn't give us more frequent strong combos on this texture. Our range is still the same. Our interaction with this board is still the same. Our position is still worst. We still lack nuttiness across many runouts.

I think you'd have to look into what wider cold calling does on this texture. Does it give him more strong hands? Does it give him more middling stuff that bets when checked to? Does it give him more air?

Without knowing the answers here, my guess is check raising more frequently on Q75r does better than cbet broader and smaller.


by Munga30 m

Button cold calling wider shifts his line on the rvr graph a little to the left, but doesn't give us more frequent strong combos on this texture. Our range is still the same. Our interaction with this board is still the same. Our position is still worst. We still lack nuttiness across many runouts. I think you'd have to look into what wider cold calling does on this texture

When BTN calls too wide, we have a massive range advantage, and a significant polarity advantage because QQ is denser in our range.

The issue I have with x/r more is, BTN will have lots of air. How often is he going to bet his air? It seems that most humans will check their air, which means we should deny equity by betting small/ medium very frequently.


by PLOTheoryGod m

When BTN calls too wide, we have a massive range advantage, and a significant polarity advantage because QQ is denser in our range.

The issue I have with x/r more is, BTN will have lots of air. How often is he going to bet his air? It seems that most humans will check their air, which means we should deny equity by betting small/ medium very frequently.

Good luck attempting to implement a very complex betting/range strategy before perfecting a more simplistic one. The approach is to learn to perfect a simplistic strategy for each spot until you've played so many hands you start to intuit ways you could divide your range differently that would be more exploitative

If you try to master the complex before you've mastered the simple you will almost assuredly fail or worse go on a heater implementing this and thinking you know what you're doing only to be slapped back down to reality

Crawl....walk....run....sprint can be applied to anything you're working to master in life. There's no real way to actually skip a step in the process that won't hurt you in the long run


by PLOTheoryGod m

When BTN calls too wide, we have a massive range advantage, and a significant polarity advantage because QQ is denser in our range.

The issue I have with x/r more is, BTN will have lots of air. How often is he going to bet his air? It seems that most humans will check their air, which means we should deny equity by betting small/ medium very frequently.

Is button calling hands he should 3bet? Calling hands he should fold? How much more than theory on each side?


It’s less important to structure a percentage leading range and more important to understand what hands are always leading OOP.

In practice sub 15% leading ranges can be simplified to checking range without losing enough EV to feel like a problem.

20% or more we need to incorporate leads and the easiest way to do that is to figure out which hands are always leading and gradually increasing from there. Focus on that and it should be enough to be ahead of 99% of the field.

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