We cbetting w/blockers?
2/2 live 5 to call 8 handed
Effective 1200
We just moved from must move not long ago.
Straddle is a maniac 3bet 200/5bet shoving 1100 w/KQ27 ds. But he doesn't do it every hand. He sometimes randomly spazzes on flops but most of the time play passively.
Mp has been passive so far. No other reads.
Rock Straddles to 20
Mp limps
Hero in Btn w/A♠A♥T♣4♣ opens to 75. Was praying for the maniac to 3bet. I thought about limp/3betting or limp/calling but I rather open/4bet get it in.
Straddle calls
Mp calls
3way pot 225
Flop T♠8♠7♠
both checks
Hero?
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I'd bet 80-100. If only the rock calls I'd consider bluffing assuming we have a tight enough image. Probably checking back the turn against the maniac and hoping to get to a showdown for free.
I think limp pre is a little better because maniac is SB, you don't have a read on what he thinks of us, and our hand features have very little mw playability. Seems close though.
As played start with a very small bet and see what happens. 50-75.
Usually limp 3bet.
70 looks good but I’m not committed to barreling it off vs the maniac
Agree that we should try to play this skillfully, meaning paying attention to the runout and maniac actions. Generally that means aiming for sd when the board pairs middle/bottom and mostly giving up on a fourth spade. When maniac raises our bet or sizes middling, I think tend to give up. But if he full sizes in response to our check, I'm more curious and thinking about paying off.
Whether we should bet three streets of small small small or check back the flop and size for two streets if checked to again depends on what what we imagine the thinks of us. I tend to choose the former as the opponent pays more attention to the runout, thinks me more nitty.
Since you are on the button, I like the open. The maniac I play with at least knows position and doesn't spazz from OOP -- not sure if yours is the same, but would be terrible to limp and have them limp w/ this hand.
I bet ~$100 on the flop. I guess you could check and bet or raise the turn, but that get trickier.
Since you are on the button, I like the open. The maniac I play with at least knows position and doesn't spazz from OOP -- not sure if yours is the same, but would be terrible to limp and have them limp w/ this hand.
I bet ~$100 on the flop. I guess you could check and bet or raise the turn, but that get trickier.
Doesn’t seem terrible at all to be in a multi way limped pot with aces on the btn. Talk about a disguised hand.
Doesn’t seem terrible at all to be in a multi way limped pot with aces on the btn. Talk about a disguised hand.
The reason to limp w/ AA vs a maniac is if you think he's going to raise and you can 3bet. When V is OOP and might not spazz, I prefer to go ahead and use my position and raise. Do you limp w/ AA on the button often to disguise your hand? Not often in my playbook.
If maniac is pfr'ing like 70%+ or something when limped to but isn't 3b very much then limping def has a good bit or merit but only OP can know this
The reason to limp w/ AA vs a maniac is if you think he's going to raise and you can 3bet. When V is OOP and might not spazz, I prefer to go ahead and use my position and raise. Do you limp w/ AA on the button often to disguise your hand Not often in my playbook.
I would usually limp aces this bad on the button. What are we accomplishing by raising a hand that’s a pure set mine?
If we are going to cooler someone set over set at least make it at high spr where they can make big mistakes.
I agree they are pretty bad aces, but if I want money in the pot (as OP seems to), I go ahead and raise myself. I also agree, though, that if OP isn't raising other hands I can get behind a limp.
I like being the aggressor, especially on the button, which is why I like to raise even bad AA if I get a chance like this (vs one or two players in position).
I would usually limp aces this bad on the button. What are we accomplishing by raising a hand that’s a pure set mine?
straight
If we are going to cooler someone set over set at least make it at high spr where they can make big mistakes.
The raise seems fine. At least we have one suit, and having an Ace:, a T♣, and a 4♣ gives us both wheel and Broadway straight potential. We probably have the best hand preflop( Even bad Aces are better than non-Aces) at the moment, so why not bet for value when we can push equity??
I think calling would be fine with something like A♥A♠9♣ 2♣ or A♥A♠8♣ 2♣ with low suits that won't make nut straights/ flushes if we are 150 or 200bbs deep and multiway.
Also, there is a straddle which changes the blind structure. So effectively, you have 60 bbs due to the 20 dollar straddle.
So I think you should be happy to 3b any AAxx as long as they are not AAAx with no suits.
The raise seems fine. At least we have one suit, and having an Ace:, a T♣, and a 4♣ gives us both wheel and Broadway straight potential. We probably have the best hand preflop( Even bad Aces are better than non-Aces) at the moment, so why not bet for value when we can push equity??I think calling would be fine with something like A♥A♠9♣ 2♣ or A♥A♠8♣ 2♣ with low suits that won't mak
Because multi way this hand under realizes its equity.
Wouldn't this be an argument for 3 betting?
Limping will invite more players into the pot by giving them a cheap price
Also, 3 betting gives us another way of winning the pot by getting the other players to fold! So it creates fold equity.
It's bad if they call a 3b with non-Aces( or even Aces with no suits) because we have better equity and are IP, and it's bad if they fold because we win the pot.
I love a 3b here
A 3b would be nice but it’s hard to 3b over a limp.
Have u guys tried the silver from PLO genius ?
