Live 2/5/10 Live PLO
Looking for some advice on how was this hand played on all streets?
Live 2/5/10 8 handed PLO4. Been playing for about an hour but both villains V1 and V2 joined recently and not much history with them.
Hero ($2500)
Preflop: KK42r in stradle position. One limper. V1 limps in CO. V2 BTN makes it 30. One call. I call? V1 Call.
4-way Flop ($130): Ac Kc Jd
Hero checks? V1 CO checks. V2 BTN bets $75. Hero calls? V1 CO also flat calls.
Turn ($355): Ac Kc Jd 7h
Hero checks. V1 checks. V2 BTN continues with bet $280. Hero calls? V1 CO now check-jams all in for $1380. V2 tank hums and moans and calls all in for $900 total.
Hero ???
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Looking for some advice on how was this hand played on all streets? Live 2/5/10 8 handed PLO4. Been playing for about an hour but both villains V1 and V2 joined recently and not much history with them.Hero ($2500)Preflop: KK42r in stradle position. One limper. V1 limps in CO. V2 BTN makes it 30. One call. I call? V1 Call.4-way Flop ($130): Ac Kc JdHero checks? V1 CO checks. V2
Not sure if I'll call the turn bet. I might probably fold, if board pairs on river, we won't get paid anyway, we are oop, if an A comes there are some reverse implied odds going on.
V1 usually always has the nuts(TQ probably no redraw) here unless he's crazy.
V2 when he's moaning it means he is either AAxx or on a massive draw like nfd+gutshot+2pairs/set type hand.
Either way this is a fold after the jam because v2 got our outs, we might be also drawing dead vs v2.
Not sure if I'll call the turn bet. I might probably fold, if board pairs on river, we won't get paid anyway, we are oop, if an A comes there are some reverse implied odds going on.V1 usually always has the nuts(TQ probably no redraw) here unless he's crazy.V2 when he's moaning it means he is either AAxx or on a massive draw like nfd+gutshot+2pairs/set type hand.Either way thi
Good points. Ended up folding the turn. River was a brick (non-repeat/non fush card). V1 had QT as expected. V2 didn't show.
Dry KK oop in the straddle, wouldn’t be the worst fold preflop
No issue calling with KK this deep as long as you know what you are doing post flop. The $75 flop bet screams AA to me as he is looking for pot control with the broadway flop. Rarely is he going to try to bluff into two players here and you have the KK already, so this is AA or QT the vast majority of the time. I think you can just go ahead and fold on the flop, but I understand the call with V1 yet to act. However, the turn is a clear fold to me even for the first $280. V2 is leading again after you both called and you still have V1 behind. Fold
The $75 flop bet screams AA to me as he is looking for pot control with the broadway flop. Rarely is he going to try to bluff into two players here and you have the KK already, so this is AA or QT the vast majority of the time. I think you can just go ahead and fold on the flop, but I understand the call with V1 yet to act.
And I thought I was nitty.
Never knew people are folding sets to a flop cbet in a single raised pot. Btw, villain didn't even pot it preflop, it was a small raise.
Some people are cbetting super wide range. Some super tight.
Also villain was on the button which might or might not cbet with a wider range.
Also it wasn't a pot sized bet screaming massive strength type bet size.
I think it's very villain dependant. Maybe your pool only cbets nutted range.
If we fold to cbets every time, might as well fold preflop.
Imho, I don't think villain defined his range until the turn bet.