We have blockers vs maniac
Live 5/5/10 ~ 9 handed
Villain ~ young asian kid, super crazy aggro,
preflop 3b/6b jam axxx ds for 2k vs cold4b and 5b.
3b/stackoff flop w/ non nutted combo draws in mwp.
Opens frequently.
Oh, he lost 1 buyin, then tripled up his 2nd buyin, has like 6k now. This might make him less aggro?
Effective 1400
2 limpers
V opens to 60 in mp
Hero in btn flats w/9♠9♦6♣5♣
3 callers
5way pot 300
Flop 5♦6♥7♣
V cbets 75???
Hero????
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Very clear fold pre for me. Flop you need to continue of course, I'd just flat and probably raise later.
Ok Hero flats
Ep flats
3 way pot 525
Turn K♥
EP checks
Villain bets 175
Hero???
Not bluffing this guy.
Absolutely raising now, especially against someone who is betting wide. Play it as if you had 89.
Maybe heads up I raise, but not three way. You didn't describe EP (probably should have since he's on the turn) so I assume he folds, but he could have 89 just waiting for V to bet again. (Blockers are over-rated 😉 )
It seems cheap enough to see a river, but now hearts are out there, too, and if EP check/raises, we are in trouble.
I also think (straight) blockers are over-rated, but I'm raising this spot every time. You have nut blockers and equity. If you don't raise this you don't bluff here. If you never bluff raise (in a specific spot) your raises are not value, they are protection.
This is also why your raises don't need to be pot sized in every depth.
I am happy to raise here against players with whom I have some fold equity (and a read) 😉
Spoiler
In game I folded
My logic was this, since he's 2nd barreling into 2, he has to have 34/48 or 77 which he is not going to fold to a raise.
My logic was flawed obviously after seeing results.
Anyhow, Ep calls
River 3
both check
Both shows 47xx for a chop
I was bizarred by the play from both of them. Didn't know we were ahead the whole time.
Afterwards, I was thinking maybe putting in a flop raise maybe better and cheaper. When villain is betting so small on flop, I don't think he has much.
The turn bet makes it feel expensive for me to bluff and not sure how successful it will be.
Yet I was scared to pull the trigger both times given how crazy he was.
Would have been nice to have some read on EP. Now you do.
I am raising the flop to isolate V and/or take it down. Folding if EP 3b's. The issue is the combination of the preflop and postflop play. Normally this is a clear fold preflop. However, if you are going to call hands like this in order to play more pots against V in position, you have to raise flops like this, otherwise why are we calling preflop? You gave villain exactly what he wants, loose preflop play that he can then take advantage of and bully postflop.
I would flat and jam if the club comes on turn
I don’t know much but I do know about playing with maniacs and if that flop isn’t all systems go for you from the button with an EPL in also, don’t call his pf raises without a premium hand.
The whole point of gambooling with maniacs is to get in spots like this. Otherwise, nit up and wait.
And another problem with flatting the flop is every single turn card can put/keep a villain ahead of hero.
