KK54ss Hero line turn check

What is this? online? stakes/room?

Online probably 3betting.
Flop is a snap fold? Villain's range has alot of sets, nfd, top 2 type hands.
We are not even drawing to the nuts besides the 3s that is not a club. We don't know if we are good if a club hits.

As played, on turn either call or stick it in. I have no clue what's the pot right now. We have the 2nd nuts. If you're afraid of having the 2nd nuts right now fold flop. Now treat it like the nuts.

thank you for your thoughts.

apologies with the information as the pot is relevant. i don't recall. but when he potted turn if I jam it was going to be for over 200bb iirc

even though I only sat with him 10 hands prior yes online tracker had him at only 5k hands at 70/21 which is why I thought flop call wasn't spew but he did pot...

your last line is why I felt i was ahead on turn

70/21 are his preflop stats. If you wanted to take advantage of such opponent, 3bet preflop lighter, not call flop bets lighter.

When he pots the flop in a multiway pot, his range isn't going to be random trash unless you've seen him out of line before.

I'd label/take note vs all opponents who get out of line especially in multiway pots.

I am jamming turn. If he has a set of As so be it. We still have outs to hitting a flush if we are wrong. But if he has AK or lower set we pretty much are in great shape on the turn. Since hes a 70/20 I would not automatically put him on a set of As. He is weaker player that could hands you are beating that he has 2 pair combos or sets with under the A.

3b pre all day

Flop could be a fold with 3 left to act behind you. Need to know their stacks too. As long as villain cbets too much, I could get behind a call.

Turn is a must jam and pray you're live to more than 3 outs but in the expectation you're getting called by worse more than enough of the time.

I don't like the call flop - Vilain is suppoed to have AAxx or Acc. So you are drawing very thin.

Turn is tricky because of the call on the flop. As we are IP , not drwaing anywhere to the nuts. I am not sure of the value to shove

good thoughts along with what mango said other day. thank you for all your thoughts. i agree. seem most people also say 3! pre and the flop call is margina and turn is very speculative

villain plays pretty loose and aggro from what I gathered with playing him over the session after usually the 70/20 VPIP guys are still aggro on flop and sticky if you wan to call it that is that i thought

I was never putting him on AAxx but tbh I didn't think he would have an Axxx either

I jammed turn for the rest of my stack which was like 175-200bb he called and he had AAxx so he had a set and I was drawing to 10 outsd 2 K and 6 clubs since he had one club himself . i think hes callin any 2p and 3rd flush as well which is why I was like this has to be good but tbh at these stakes pot pot no matter what villain usually means top of range so i need to assess that

I do think 3! is the standard play and if I get 4! at these stakes even by an aggro it usually means KKxx or AAxx for sure mostly unles its a 80/30 that ive seen