I think I just found a bluff heavy line
I just played 2 hands and they were different opponent taking the same line with semibluffs. I think I've seen it before as semibluffs before as well.
Line is as such
They flat preflop oop, flop check/check. Turn they go for the check/raise with their semi bluffs.
Then river blank, they continue barreling.
Maybe I am biased/results oriented after calling off the river for both hands.
But I think I've seen such line before with semi bluffs as well.
So can we conclude such line is very air heavy???
Or we shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet based on two hands and memories?
Things are a bit different if it were multiway pots though.
Posted the 2hh below in case anyone is wondering.
For Hand2, I was on the verge of folding, but river was so cheap so I looked it up.
CoinPoker - $0.25 Ante $0.02 PL Hi (7 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 117.64 BB
SB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 9.15, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 166)
BB: 132.76 BB (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 83)
CO: 121.88 BB (VPIP: 32.08, PFR: 19.81, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 106)
4 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.72 BB) Hero has 6♠ 9♦ Q♠ K♦
fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, BB calls 2.4 BB
Flop: (7.52 BB, 2 players) 3♦ Q♥ T♠
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (7.52 BB, 2 players) J♠
BB checks, Hero bets 3.92 BB, BB raises to 18.92 BB, Hero calls 15 BB
River: (45.36 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB bets 43.08 BB, Hero calls 43.08 BB
Spoiler
Hero shows 6♠ 9♦ Q♠ K♦ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 60%, Turn 84%)
BB shows J♣ K♥ T♥ 7♥ (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 44%, Flop 40%, Turn 16%)
Hero wins 127.12 BB
CoinPoker - $0.25 Ante $0.02 PL Hi (7 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): 100.56 BB
CO: 103.64 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 2.90, Hands: 162)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
SB: 131.68 BB (VPIP: 28.77, PFR: 19.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 76)
BB: 141.24 BB (VPIP: 31.37, PFR: 19.61, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 102)
5 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.8 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♥ 8♦ K♣
Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2.4 BB
Flop: (7.6 BB, 2 players) 4♥ 9♥ J♣
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (7.6 BB, 2 players) 7♠
BB checks, Hero bets 3.96 BB, BB raises to 11.52 BB, Hero calls 7.56 BB
River: (30.64 BB, 2 players) 3♠
BB bets 7.28 BB, Hero calls 7.28 BB
Spoiler
Hero shows Q♦ Q♥ 8♦ K♣ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 65%, Turn 81%)
BB shows K♠ Q♣ 6♣ T♦ (High Card, King)
(Pre 32%, Flop 35%, Turn 19%)
Hero wins 42.92 BB
2 Replies
Maybe I am biased/results oriented after calling off the river for both hands.
But I think I've seen such line before with semi bluffs as well.
So can we conclude such line is very air heavy???
No, absolutely not. Probably in both hands villains are attacking your sizing that looks weak. In hand 2 villain attacks with very weak sizings himself, though.
I would not jump such conclusions. Years ago my friend concluded that if someone check-calls the flop and check-raises the turn his range is not strong, because he would've raised strong hands on the flop. I guess that is mostly what he did himself...
Hand 1 - I think he was trying to get value OTT - it's a terrible line he took and on the river he didn't know what to do and just said f it I'll bet. Really a lot of your checkback range is going to be hands with a pair and gutshot, pair and backdoors,etc so the turn should be good for you. Terrible line by him
Hand 2 - I like his line. The 7 shouldn't help you that often, you capped your range, and he still has reasonable clean equity but wants to play it aggressively to get you to fold middling hands like yours. On the river I think he bets small just to fold out hearts, but a lot of your hearts bet the flop so it's a moot point. He really should bet big on the river as he should be able to get you to fold middling hands a lot and maybe every now and then you had a bare T8 you checked the flop with.
The summary here is better players will attack middling parts of your range - the easy counter is to just call down lighter or strengthen your checking range with strong hands.
