Nuts on the turn against a raise from passive player
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utg limps , utg+1 opens to 50 , 5 callers, were in the bb , with A245DS , call, utg calls.
flop(350)
k23 rainbow
checks around.
turn A ,brings in spades draw which we dont have.
I bet 200 , get raised from utg to 700 .
he has total of 4K .
he has been playing very passive till now .
are we just calling ?
any thoughts about raising here without a good redraw?
any way , we ended up calling .
river( 1750) k23AA ss
i check , utg bets 1300
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Tough one without more reads. Not sure about the turn. Being out of position, I probably 3! to gii now. In position you definitely just call as you have more control and can play more optimally against him on the river. OOP it is more difficult as you have to start with a check OTR for anything that is not a blank, just like you did here even though you filled up.
The river is really tough. Would he play a combo draw, like a set plus FD like this? You only beat KK, 33, and 22, so what combinations of AK and A3 can he have that he can also raise the turn? Would he raise the turn with only AK or A3 plus the NFD? Which card is the other spade, K, 3, or 2? If it is the 3 or 2, I most likely fold.
What experience has led you to label him a passive player?
I fold pre.
Turn:
As played OOP on the turn and without a redraw I want to get in stacks. IP we can flat and evaluate river.
River:
I check/fold.
Ya not sure what we mean by no redraw when we have 2 pair
I reraise turn tho unblocking the spades and having 2 pair. He could have 45 with spades but we have 2 pair also so prolly each free rolling if money goes in.
We never fold this river with our hand, question is whether we raise or not targeting KK.
If I think heβs just a zeebo theorem casual whoβs incapable of folding boats I jam. If he can fold KK just call.
Why in the world aren't we betting the flop here?