DBBP Nut Wrap | Bottom Two OOP on Rainbow Boards

check?

Or you want to bet/stack off?

I have no idea what’s correct in this hand. Bet half pot, bet pot, check-call, check-raise half pot, and check-raise pot all sound like good options.

We don't have nuts on either board
We have a nut wrap on board 1
We have bottom2 on board 2

I thought check/call was like only option?
Of course I dunno these double board good enough, I might be wrong.

I think we want to see turn card first

It’s really hard to have good equity on both. When you do, you can push people off hands if they only have really good (but not crushing) equity on one board.

But bottom two isn’t good equity on Board 2. So you’re right: maybe check-call is the only good option. I originally thought this hand might’ve been good enough to lead.

Check call seems good, maybe raise if co bets.

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I always check here. It's not a strong hand and we are OOP on two dynamic boards.
Depending on how wild CO is we could check-raise, our hand plays well against 99,55,44 and by check-raising we often push everyone else out.

We never want to go multiway, so if BTN bets and SB calls, I would just fold.

You are crushed by QQ and not by only that, so I don't think bet-getin can be correct.

Not directly related to this hand: why isn't betting like 15% (or say 10-20%) a thing in these multiway spots? A lot of hands can't profitably continue so you are clearing up equity with decent hands.

Do we have any nutty hands that we bet small with OOP? I don't want someone with a naked set on one board and nothing else to pot us.

I'm sure the top of the range is incentivized to bet small.

Bet 100 to squeeze the two nits between you and the CO LAG fish. And 3/4 of the deck is going to put bdfd’s out on the turn, so you can’t risk a free card. It seems unlikely the blinds nailed those flops. The 7 3 on the bottom lessens the chances of someone else having a big wrap too.

I’d be willing to put in half my stack hu v a lag fish here, or else why are we playing shorthanded shortstacked $20 dbbp’s?

I check/call. I'm just not fond of betting flops in DBBP when I can easily loose both.

I start with a check and potentially end up cr, c/f, c/c depending on action

We're essentially playing 10/20 plo with 500-1k stacks. If the right situation comes up I want to cr flop and get other dry straight draws out and possibly isolate vs a dry set on the board we have a wrap. If there's too much action in front of us tho we can very easily fold our hand as well. We have a pretty good hand hu and a pretty meh to bad hand 3-4 ways

Our hand sucks if we let the field in and we're not deep enough to play cautiously

half pot, we are strong enough to warrant not letting free cards peel off

In my games, basically nobody folds anything that could catch the turn/river or that has any piece of either board. They will call w/ any piece, Q9XX and as bad as AA/KK, and they are tight players. They just don't understand how bad their calls usually are, but it's amazing how many times they get there or a turn peels that just ruins you.

Strange that you see that as an argument for checking. It's a very clear indication that you should bet.

Why? We hate half the deck on both turns. And two of our straight outs on the top board are gone.

Just in general in poker, if you have favorable equity you should start putting money in (assuming they play as you say). Checking doesn't help you.

Bet away. I disagree that we have favorable equity here.

Well you do have a reasonable hand on both boards. Like I said, QQ and other hands have you crushed though.

I don't think they are reasonable enough to bet the flop because we really don't like most turns, especially on the bottom board. If we don't hit a nut straight on the top and/or FH on bottom, we can't comfortably continue on the turn. You just have to pray to see a free river.

I don't know if I understand the way you think or what you are saying even. You say that they continue with any piece. Why does their any piece transform into something on the turn and your reasonable hand on both boards does not? Maybe you've just ran bad and now think you must be doing something wrong. If you bet and say 4 people call, of course you are supposed to give up on many turns that don't improve you. That is how poker works multiway.

DBBPs are very different from "how poker works." Completely different animal. You have almost zero fold equity on the flop, and you do not want to build a pot on the flop when you have to give up on many turns -- and often can't even handle a bet on the turn.

If your experience is different, great. Go ahead and bet. Seems many posters here agree with me, though.