Raising the River BVB
I had stacked villain 2x earlier so I was a little concerned of a spite call, but the combo seemed too good to pass up.
Thoughts?
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software
NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO (306.2BBs)
UTG (113.2BBs) [VPIP: 17.6% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
HJ (81BBs) [VPIP: 15.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 33]
CO (212.7BBs) [VPIP: 18.6% | PFR: 11.6% | AGG: 12.5% | Hands: 43]
BTN (82.6BBs) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 4]
SB (120BBs) [VPIP: 51.9% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 47.6% | Hands: 56]
Dealt to Hero: 6♣ A♠
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To 3.2BBs, HERO Calls 2.2BBs
Hero SPR on Flop: [18.24 effective]
Flop (6.4BBs): J♠ 9♣ 4♦
SB Checks, HERO Checks
Turn (6.4BBs): J♠ 9♣ 4♦ 7♠
SB Checks, HERO Checks
River (6.4BBs): J♠ 9♣ 4♦ 7♠ 3♠
SB Bets 4.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 112BBs), HERO Raises To 20.5BBs
Having a 6 isn't good, and if you're blasting most A♠ you're massively overbluffing in a spot where people will probably look you up quite wide.
I have insane MDA on this exact line from a guy I was buying off of about a year ago.
Check this out
His sizing is a bit big to raise but on FCR they overfold over 4% so it's good.
Well played.
Your blokcers just look good, but 56 always bet turn and nut flush is small part of his range and Asx blocks some bluffs.
I'm definitely misunderstanding you. Doesn't the table you posted show they're exceeding MDF with sizes above .8?
No you're right I went into auto pilot mode and was parroting some Poker Detox rhetoric that clearly isn't true (shocker).
my bad
As an aside, one thing I've learned after having probably 20-30 poker coaches lifetime is that they get **** wrong sometimes but most don't have the humility to say I don't know and instead give you some bullshit answer. I've caught Saulo Costa giving me bad advice on more than one occasion (and he charges $500/hr) and I had to double check with the data and then he corrected himself.
Good data>>>>>>>Any coach
You broke Costa already? ha
100+ queries a day must be like a doctor where after the first 35 you couldn't give a solitary **** what anyone thinks of you anymore you just want to go home and get smashed.
I think this is good line. The size of the stab seems somewhat mitigated by the runout where you know you can't rep anything <60%
Sure, why not.
You broke Costa already? ha
100+ queries a day must be like a doctor where after the first 35 you couldn't give a solitary **** what anyone thinks of you anymore you just want to go home and get smashed.
See this is what I'm talking about. Saulo is a great player but he would get absolutely murdered 3 handed vs Linus and Stefan.
I can just imagine Stefan using all non GTO sizing's and preflop openings and the 500nl reg would be clueless in all parts of the game tree.
Get your popcorn out. Saulo vs George from bitb. I'm pretty confident George is correct here. Saulo calling Linus and Stefan "2 pros" is absolutely absurd lol. These guys are the probably the two best players in the world.
As far as 8bb not being achievable, huh? Davy Jones had an over 8bb winrate playing 5knl.
It's always the guys who don't battle the best who act like they wouldn't get absolutely murdered by them.
Did that person (can't see sn) really run that much over EV for 500k hands?
Get your popcorn out. Saulo vs George from bitb. I'm pretty confident George is correct here. Saulo calling Linus and Stefan "2 pros" is absolutely absurd lol. These guys are the probably the two best players in the world.
As far as 8bb not being achievable, huh? Davy Jones had an over 8bb winrate playing 5knl.
It's always the guys who don't battle the best who act like they wouldn't get absolutely murdered by them.
He said 8 isn't possible playing against 2 other pros. Safe to assume that these graphs include a ton of hands against whales. Maybe whoever George is should filter out whale hands.
He said 8 isn't possible playing against 2 other pros. Safe to assume that these graphs include a ton of hands against whales. Maybe whoever George is should filter out whale hands.
He said Linus and Stefan couldn't win 8bb/100 against a 500nl reg in a 3 handed game and proceeded to call Linus and Stefan "2 other pros" like they weren't goated.
I'll ask him to filter out whale hands.
He said Linus and Stefan couldn't win 8bb/100 against a 500nl reg in a 3 handed game and proceeded to call Linus and Stefan "2 other pros" like they weren't goated.
I'll ask him to filter out whale hands.
Yeah I saw that other thing that you posted too, but I'm just referring to this specific one tweet.
Yeah I saw that other thing that you posted too, but I'm just referring to this specific one tweet.
Going off what George said, whales don't play many hands at 2k+ limits when 3 handed so the sample is almost all reg battles.
It's an interesting conversation. I've always thought in a game of infinite complexity that putting any hard cap on winrates seemed presumptuous. We are playing against human beings.
I'll use MDA as an example, if I'm playing against someone that knows MDA and I also know he knows MDA (but he doesn't know I know MDA). I can literally just reverse all MDA lines and move the overbluffed lines into all value hands and the underbluffed lines into all bluff hands and absolutely destroy him.
Going off what George said, whales don't play many hands at 2k+ limits when 3 handed so the sample is almost all reg battles.
It's an interesting conversation. I've always thought in a game of infinite complexity that putting any hard cap on winrates seemed presumptuous. We are playing against human beings.
I'll use MDA as an example, if I'm playing against someone that knows MDA and I also know he knows MDA (but he doesn't know I know MDA). I can literally just reverse all MDA lines and move the
I think there's a wider range of outcomes as the table gets more shorthanded, so I would guess that 8bb or whatever is more possible shorthanded than 6-handed.
I think there's a wider range of outcomes as the table gets more shorthanded, so I would guess that 8bb or whatever is more possible shorthanded than 6-handed.
It's a good point that neither George or Saulo has brought up yet. Edge's get bigger the less players at the table with Heads up having the highest possible winrate.
Let's say you are weakest reg of the 3 and you lose 3BB to each player, with rake you probably lose 7-8bb/100.
That would be my guess.
It's a good point that neither George or Saulo has brought up yet. Edge's get bigger the less players at the table with Heads up having the highest possible winrate.
Also every hand is BvB and Btn v Blind, so I'd expect whoever is better in those situations is going to have a massive edge.
Also every hand is BvB and Btn v Blind, so I'd expect whoever is better in those situations is going to have a massive edge.
Yes another good point, although these are the most studied positions.
This back and forth keeps delivering.
Pretty much agree with George here and think Saulo is underestimating how good these guys are. Saulo is basically saying you can't prove this point with a 75k hand sample size (which is obviously correct) but it is MORE LIKELY George is correct than Saulo because of how unlikely it is that this player wins at <5bb. It comes down to confidence intervals for me and Saulo is demanding 95+% except no one has 1 million hand samples of someone 3handed reg battling of 8bb+ at 5knl+
What do you guys think?
