Ace high vs turn OB

don’t think u can fold, quite high up in range.

I hate this situation. Whenever I get in this exact situation I feel like I should call, but that I'm going to be facing a large river bet and faced with calling again w A high when I dont make a hand. And if I fold I think it's weak and -EV.

I have no idea what the correct play is, just wanted to commiserate

Why don't we just fold vs unknown. Either we end up in a very difficult part of the game tree with a marginal holding against an unknown or we decide to wait.

Against min he has plenty of 6x, but there are of course also many bluffs available, albeit all of them with great equity against our hand.

Unless you have some kind of data point that OB turn probes are underbluffed I think it's a pretty standard call.

Especially, when in theory, BB's range should be a lot wider vs a 2bb open.

I usually min raise in these spots. Works well vs most regs.

What is the idea minraising into the polar range? What type of mistakes do they make against that?

Seems like a way worse option than calling. No one is ever folding anything but air that you crush.

They don't overfold vs raises though. Have you checked your Hand2Note for folding frequencies vs turn raises?

I played a hand last night almost identical to this. I specifically was thinking about this hand at the time.

I opened late position AK, reg looking BB called. Flop was 5 5 3 two tone. Check check. He OBs turn offsuit 6 for similar sizing, I call. He bet about 3/4 pot on river offsuit jack and i called and he showed some random QT or Q9 I think it was.

Im not great at putting my thoughts into words in a way that sounds scientific or backing it up with data. Im more of a feel player than anything. I use my intuition based on what ive studied and my experience.

My thoughts were simply that this player has a million bluffs here and when combined with the OB sizing its even more because what would villain expect me to call and overbet with after checking flop? I dont have any pocket pairs, they would expect me to bet them all. Maybe i check back some KK/AA some amount of the time, i might have some 5x i check back sometimes, and i might have some flush draws i check back sometimes, and some turned straight draws.

I dont have much value to call overbets with, so the bet size is chosen to make me fold.

It's hard to resist not doing this with random trash 100% of the time against people who cbet too much.

Youre right about that. I played a couple hands tonight where i cbet too much and i realized it bc i got raised on a dry as a popcorn fart A high board and a K high board. I knew immediately what was happening and i didnt have the courage to play back. I said oops that was a mistake and just folded forfeiting the small pots.

I really wanted to play back at villain bc i knew he was taking advantage of the fact i cbet too much but in game i decided to just take my small loss and lesson instead of chancing losing a stack over it.

Bit rusty after about a 5mo hiatus from online. Playing 50 and 100nl online feels like im facing phil ivey after playing 500nl live the last few months.

I think most regs overbluff that turn spot by a lot and the big majority of their range are strong draws that will mostly give up otr.

The min raise would be for value vs those draws. Most regs won't ever bluff/thin value 3bet, which lets us see a much cheaper showdown vs the majority of his range.