Burning money?
Greetings,
Opponent had stats: VPIP:25% PFR:19% 3B:18% 125 hands
Opponent chosed weird line and as played I still have all the nutted hands. Not sure how opponets high 3B% inpacts his range in this spot...
Is this play profitable in micro stakes vs fishes?
[converted_hand][hand_history]GG Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3
Hero (BTN): $11.68 (116.8 bb)
SB: $10.77 (107.7 bb)
BB: $30.26 (302.6 bb)
UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $4.75 (47.5 bb)
CO: $6.89 (68.9 bb)
SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♠ 9♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, fold
Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) Q♠ 2♣ A♠
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30
Turn: ($1.20, 2 players) 5♠
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90
River: ($3.00, 2 players) 5♦
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $10.23 and is all-in,
Final Board: Q♠ 2♣ A♠ 5♠ 5♦
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8 Replies
Fish come in two forms. First type of fish will only call with a top 10% hand; you bluff them. Second type of fish will only fold with a bottom 10% hand, you never bluff them. If you think your opponent is good what do your stats look like. If he has seen you bluff a lot that you could have a nutted hand means a lot less than he knows you bluff often.
i prefer big bet or check otf. don't like the cbet with our holdings
only like the river bluff if you think he can fold a flush
His stats aren't fishy but his postflop play is.
Unless you really deep dive MDA you won't know the nuances here but there is a fundamental difference in range composition vs XC-D-B and XC-XC-D
This plus adding the bad data point of paired board it becomes a losing raise.
Thanks for the input! Much appreciated.
Also be careful looking at his 3b% with hand size, if you pick a 200 hand sample of yourself the 3b% can be significantly higher or lower than your real 3b%
Not really. Fish are a spectrum. We lump them into types to make our decisions easier but at a minimum I would mark:
- generic/unknown fish
- super stations
- passives
- aggros
They're all fish. They're all technically stations and yet in certain spots overfolding. But having some purchase on their general tendencies is crucial to maxing EV against each type and boosting WR.
Not really. Fish are a spectrum. We lump them into types to make our decisions easier but at a minimum I would mark:
- generic/unknown fish
- super stations
- passives
- aggros
If it's no secret,how would you mark fishes/ fun players/ rec in detail? I'm having problems implementing useful labels.
It's tricky to give hard/fast rules because everything is in relation to how well you know the spot better than your opponent.
As a rough guide I would say focus on giving yourself whatever piece of information that would've been useful to know the next time you play vs that villain. So if you see someone calling down with A high -> mark station. And adjust accordingly next time by reducing bluff range to smaller bluffs (or none) only and thin value bet them to death.
Someone playing AK passively preflop is likely to be under value betting postflop etc. For me that gets a passive tag. If I see them doing something different i'll change 'em. But it always helps to have a broad picture. Aggro guys are usually relentless overbluffers, so I know to smuggle in as many traps as I can after I catch them out once or twice.
But it all depends on how well you know what is 'correct' first. You have to be confident in what mistakes your opponent's are making in order to deviate and exploit them for it. Not to mention there are pool tendencies that might make a reg look 'bad' when they were deviating wildly to exploit something about a different fish you haven't seen. So it's always pretty loose. Thus tags can be quite subjective, depending on your style.