AA on Flop vs Two Shoves

AA on Flop vs Two Shoves

BB 50/14/0 over 14 hands
BTN 37/15/0 over 68 hands

Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.08 BB
Hero (SB): 788.75 BB
BB: 103.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BB calls 11 BB, BTN calls 9 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) K 5 J
Hero bets 17.1 BB, BB raises to 91.38 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 91.08 BB and is all-in

Hero....

10 February 2024 at 05:03 PM
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Would fold, you're probably doing fairly well against BB but likely crushed by BTN. It is a shove on Ignition though wouldn't blame you for calling.


Would call pretty quickly. BB is a fish and so is BTN. If you look at BB cold calling ranges for 3bets in the fish profile they are very wide. BTN will overvalue Kx as well and definitely call hands like QT/FDs.


Agree w doodoo, snap call.

Buttons call doesnt mean a lot to me. He will have plenty of Kx and combo draws


It's a call. Not sure it's a snap, but it's definitely a call given your opponents, the flop, and the price you're getting.


idk how this is a snap call when your best case is ~40% to win, and you're drawing to 2 outs, runner runner FH, or quads a lot.


by AskZandar k

idk how this is a snap call when your best case is ~40% to win, and you're drawing to 2 outs, runner runner FH, or quads a lot.

Even if your opponent has KJ here and show's you it, you have to call. It's just pot odds.

You have to call 74.28 to win 310ish, you need less than 24% equity. You have over 27% equity vs KJ.

Mr. Spyutastic, interested in results!


by DooDooPoker k

Even if your opponent has KJ here and show's you it, you have to call. It's just pot odds.

You have to call 74.28 to win 310ish, you need less than 24% equity. You have over 27% equity vs KJ.

Mr. Spyutastic, interested in results!

well there's a 3rd person all in.


by AskZandar k

well there's a 3rd person all in.

Vs regs it would be close. But fish are too wide preflop and will overvalue Kx. BB cold calling ranges are wider than 3bp IP PFC ranges for fish, and those are already very wide.


I don't think this snap call. What we expect to see? Both of them having Kx?

If one has KQ and other guy QTs, more than half of deck is killing us and there are two more cards to come. If one of tham shows set we are done.

Sure fish cold call 3bets wide, but when he calls jam otf we are looking at maybe top 5-10% of that range which is super strong range.


Vs regs it's fold, not close imo.


by Haizemberg93 k

Vs regs it's fold, not close imo.

I agree 100% different vs regs, looks like we have 2 fish here though


by DooDooPoker k

Even if your opponent has KJ here and show's you it, you have to call. It's just pot odds.

You have to call 74.28 to win 310ish, you need less than 24% equity. You have over 27% equity vs KJ.

Mr. Spyutastic, interested in results!

by Haizemberg93 k

I don't think this snap call. What we expect to see? Both of them having Kx?

If one has KQ and other guy QTs, more than half of deck is killing us and there are two more cards to come. If one of tham shows set we are done.

Sure fish cold call 3bets wide, but when he calls jam otf we are looking at maybe top 5-10% of that range which is super strong range.

What Haizemberg said is kind of what was going through my mind at the the time. I felt like there's just no way I don't see 55 or JJ from one of them.

I was ready to snap off the BB, but when the Button shoved I didn't love the spot.

Plus I have been running like death and just constantly running into the nuts and even when not just losing anyways so it felt like an easy fold.

But after getting multiple opinions most are saying it's a clear call vs two fish.

Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.08 BB
Hero (SB): 788.75 BB
BB: 103.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BTN has T 9

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BB has A 6

BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BB calls 11 BB, BTN calls 9 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) K 5 J
Hero bets 17.1 BB, BB raises to 91.38 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 91.08 BB and is all-in, fold

Turn: (235.26 BB, 2 players) T

River: (235.26 BB, 2 players) 6

BTN shows T 9 (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 52%, Flop 31%, Turn 74%)
BB shows A 6 (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 48%, Flop 69%, Turn 26%)
BTN wins 233.26 BB


by Mr Spyutastic k

What Haizemberg said is kind of what was going through my mind at the the time. I felt like there's just no way I don't see 55 or JJ from one of them.

I was ready to snap off the BB, but when the Button shoved I didn't love the spot.

Plus I have been running like death and just constantly running into the nuts and even when not just losing anyways so it felt like an easy fold.

But after getting multiple opinions most are saying it's a clear call vs two fish.

Yeah it's hard to play well when you run terrible. Thanks for the results.

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