4bet pot, AK check shove punt or no punt OTF with a read
PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 174.7 BB
Hero (SB): 101.4 BB
BB: 107.6 BB
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 100 BB
MP: 279.8 BB
MP+1: 101.5 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♠ A♥
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, UTG raises to 29 BB, fold, Hero calls 16 BB
Flop: (62 BB, 2 players) 6♥ 2♦ 8♠
Hero checks, UTG bets 29.6 BB, Hero raises to 72.4 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 41.4 BB and is all-in
Turn: (204 BB, 2 players) 5♦
River: (204 BB, 2 players) 7♣
Villain is 15/13 TAG, 3 bets 8%, 4 bets 7% (villain has shown up in the past with AJs+,AQo+, TT+, JTs) in 4b pots, but based on 4b number its probably not often enough in hindsight.
It looks like we have 50% equity vs TT+, AQo+ OTF. But when called we are doing badly, question is how many overcards does he need to have for this to be profitable.
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Flop is spew
Might even fold to the 4b in this configuration
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If he's (1) 4 betting somewhat light and (2) range betting flop, it's fine
(1) is questionable given it's UTG vs SB squeeze and a 15/13
(2) B50 doesn't feel like a range bet to me, so they could be checking back a lot of their worse hands
UTG has KK+
In theory you can do stuff like this bc you need to push your equity against a range that will have some bluffs and pairs below KK, in practice you can't really. Should pry just fold pre against a 15/13, which isn't really a "TAG," they're just a nit. This person will maybe 4bet "light" in a COvsBTN spot against a more aggressive reg, but in this configuration your 3b range is already really tight
Nitty micro regs usually just have KK+, AK at the flop, and will just x behind AK every time. Some QQ is possible but that's it, the betting range is pretty just KK+. No regs really 4bet JJ-TT with these positions, and AQs should be a pure call anyway. AQo maybe possible, but I don't think it's likely
In theory you can do stuff like this bc you need to push your equity against a range that will have some bluffs and pairs below KK, in practice you can't really. Should pry just fold pre against a 15/13, which isn't really a "TAG," they're just a nit. This person will maybe 4bet "light" in a COvsBTN spot against a more aggressive reg, but in this configuration your 3b range is already really tight
Nitty micro regs usually just have KK+, AK at the flop, and will just x behind AK every time. Some Q
Good point. I am curious what you count as a nit or tag in full ring. I am 18/14 myself which i have considered a classical full ring tag. I tend to tag PFRs bellow 10 as nits and above as tags as long as VIP is lower than 18, and then LAGs as VIP starting from 19+ with close PFR. Where do you put your thresholds?
Probably just a fold pre, pre-flop is a bit large btw
Good point. I am curious what you count as a nit or tag in full ring. I am 18/14 myself which i have considered a classical full ring tag. I tend to tag PFRs bellow 10 as nits and above as tags as long as VIP is lower than 18, and then LAGs as VIP starting from 19+ with close PFR. Where do you put your thresholds?
I actually didn’t realize this was full ring - for 6 max generally anyone with a vpip under 20 is nitty. For fr you’re probably more correct, but I do think most regs at fr are playing tighter than they should even in theory, let alone in practice
But looking at the positions more closely, just snap fold everywhere lol
