Jamming for protection?
V is 29 / 16 / 5 over 149 hands.
Worried that my run bad has turned into play bad.
I was concerned if I called here V could hit 2p on the turn or make a set or straight. Normally I would just call here but I've just been getting killed on the turn over the past 20k hands or so.
On this flop I think V can have a bunch of gutshots and open enders, BDFD, Tx, and Kx, all of which I am crushing but can beat me on the turn. I am behind TT, 33, KT, and K3. I don't think V calls with T3 pre.
Yatahay Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 140 BB
Hero (CO): 113.2 BB
BTN: 54.6 BB
SB: 172.4 BB
BB: 181 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ K♥
fold, MP raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 7.4 BB, fold, SB calls 7 BB, fold, MP calls 5 BB
Flop: (23.2 BB, 3 players) 3♥ K♣ T♠
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 15.2 BB, SB calls 15.2 BB, MP raises to 40.6 BB, Hero raises to 105.8 BB and is all-in, fold, MP calls 65.2 BB
Turn: (250 BB, 2 players) 8♠
River: (250 BB, 2 players) 6♠
13 Replies
After MP x/r the pot is huge, I don't see the point of seeing the turn. And since you can't fold...
MP check-raises here in a multi-way spot. I'd weigh that heavily toward value hands rather than the "gutshots and open enders, BDFD, Tx, and Kx" that you mention above. I think most villain call with those kinds of hands in this spot. Raising as a semi-bluff is less effective multi-way since fold equity is so much reduced.
I think that the difficulty of the spot that you are in is partially a consequence of the size of bet that you chose on the flop. Multi-way you generally want to size down. TPTK is a great hand in a head's up but it's not as powerful multi-way for the obvious reason that now up against the best out of 2 hands instead of 1.
It sounds like you've been rattled recently and you're experiencing some monsters under the bed syndrome where you want to just take down the pot right now rather than be drawn out on (once more). The thing about betting big when you have a decent, but not super strong hand though is it often it just filters out the kind of low equity hands that you wouldn't mind calling while bloating the pot against everything else making your future decisions more complex against a stronger range.
MP check-raises here in a multi-way spot. I'd weigh that heavily toward value hands rather than the "gutshots and open enders, BDFD, Tx, and Kx" that you mention above. I think most villain call with those kinds of hands in this spot. Raising as a semi-bluff is less effective multi-way since fold equity is so much reduced.
I think that the difficulty of the spot that you are in is partially a consequence of the size of bet that you chose on the flop. Multi-way you generally want to size down. TPT
It does feel strong, but isn't that likely what V whats us to think? If V has K3 I can understand the raise for fear of the T pairing. But why raise a set or KT here?
Beware of levelling yourself. "If they bet big they want me to think they have a big hand, hence they don't have a big hand" will cost you money.
Because the pot is huge and they face 2 opponents, you and SB, who apparently want to add money to it.
Beware of levelling yourself. "If they bet big they want me to think they have a big hand, hence they don't have a big hand" will cost you money.
Because the pot is huge and they face 2 opponents, you and SB, who apparently want to add money to it.
Good Point. I've definitely been leveling myself lately. This was one of those hands I am pretty sure I misplayed and got lucky. V showed up with J9 clubs for the gutshot. In my head I think I know calling is best but in game I'm just too afraid of the Q
Good Point. I've definitely been leveling myself lately. This was one of those hands I am pretty sure I misplayed and got lucky. V showed up with J9 clubs for the gutshot. In my head I think I know calling is best but in game I'm just too afraid of the Q
Your call is normal, you can't fold this considering the size of the pot. Brussels Sprout suggested your cbet size was too big and went ahead with giving you the general principle: cbet smaller in multiway pots. In this instance it kind of worked out for you, but on the long run maybe sizing down in multiway pots will save you $
All in to find out where you’re at
V is 29 / 16 / 5 over 149 hands.
Worried that my run bad has turned into play bad.
I was concerned if I called here V could hit 2p on the turn or make a set or straight. Normally I would just call here but I've just been getting killed on the turn over the past 20k hands or so.
On this flop I think V can have a bunch of gutshots and open enders, BDFD, Tx, and Kx, all of which I am crushing but can beat me on the turn. I am behind TT, 33, KT, and K3. I don't think V calls with T3 pre.
This is results oriented reasoning, so be careful when you're analyzing your spots so it doesn't creep in.
How many people look at this spot and think his opponent is going to have a bunch of gutshots when he XR's MW?
Smaller cbet
This is a fold when he comes over the top with SB still in the hand.
Flop is spew
