25 NL Premium but ace on the board
Are you always calling turn after checking? Feels really exploitable if I'm folding every time I check back turn because of an ace being on the board. V has draws in his range, and could be bluffing with a ton of hands.
Alternatively, do you ever bet turn again, even with the ace there, and then shut it down on the river?
Feel like this is a common spot-- 3 bet, out of position with good pocket pair, but ace on the board. Trying to figure out how to navigate.
Ignition - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 172.52 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.93, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 27)
BTN: 26.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 97 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 18)
Hero (BB): 218.64 BB
UTG: 97.08 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 63.6 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♠
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, CO calls 8 BB
Flop: (22.4 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 6♣ A♥
Hero bets 8 BB, CO calls 8 BB
Turn: (38.4 BB, 2 players) 8♣
Hero checks, CO bets 18.24 BB, Hero ???
7 Replies
We generally want to go to 4x oop when we 3bet.
Ap I would call but I expect his range to be very equity driven so I'm probably folding a lot of rivers.
I would default to check calling this flop.
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Are you range betting flop? As you shouldn't be? This hand can bet but will mainly check.
Hand is never a turn bet.
I would guess that on the turn call and fold are both zero ev in theory; so if your population of recs are very float and bluff heavy compared to theory then call otherwise fold; I would just fold no reads.
Also don't worry about being exploited by a rec
Yeh I was range betting, as I reflexively do when I am the preflop raiser and there is an Ace high flop and not too many draws. I suppose I should rethink this.
And TBF if your simplification is to range bet A high boards with no draws as pre flop raiser you are going to be making a fair few mistakes in common srp spots; have a look at some Sims button Vs BB and you will find that theory will be doing a lot more checking than you think
Will be frequency mistakes more than anything but against good regs you will be exploitable
3bet 4x preflop;
I will check this flop as 1) QQ has good SDV and is ahead of his a lot of range, which could be mixed into checking range 2) you will get called by any Ax and any auto-folding cards is actually behind of your hands, so the only boardway you're afraid is K; 3) The texture is very dry and I don't think villain has many draws in 3bet pot. 4) As discussed, OOP has a lot higher checking range than naturally assumed.
