5nl 6max zoom - weird spot 120bb deep after squeezing pre

5nl 6max zoom - weird spot 120bb deep after squeezing pre

CO is 29/14 over 7 hands, SB is 17/6.7 over 30 hands. No other info on either of them. Nowhere near enough of a sample size to make any deductions other than they don't play enough hands to be your random fish that's just clicking buttons randomly.

I'm struggling to assign a range to villain here considering they flat pre from the SB and then also call the squeeze.

I'm thinking the only hands that make sense are AQ, A8s, 88 and 22, but AQ seems the most likely out of those considering his line taken pre. I guess we can also add in some random **** that got tilted by my tiny bets, and maaaaaybe also a sliver of AK or AJ that is just spazzing for no reason. Maybe KJ, KT or JT???

Considering there's only 5 possible combos of 22, 88 and A8s and there's 4 combos of AQ together plus the 3 FD & gutshots, when you add in the slim possibility of random crap, is this just a crying call and assuming we're splitting most of the time?

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
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UTG: $8.98 (180 bb)
MP: $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $5.68 (114 bb)
BU: $1.24 (25 bb)
SB: $8.27 (165 bb)
BB (Hero): $5.97 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A Q
2 players fold, CO raises to $0.11, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, Hero 3-bets to $0.60, 1 fold, SB calls $0.49

Flop: ($1.31) Q A 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24

Turn: ($1.79) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.66, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.84

River: ($4.79) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5.93 (all-in), Hero ???????????

04 June 2024 at 05:04 PM
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I wouldn't expect enough bluffing in the SB range in this line.
Fold on the river.


I generally don't fold top 2 on a board with no possible str8s or flushes.


A8s doesn't exist. 22 probably not at full frequency. QQ and AA maybe very rarely.

Just call and win against AK or chop VS AQ


Seems like a pretty easy call, the hands that beat you would mostly play differently preflop, occasionally you run into the 1 combo of 88, but more often than not its AQ or AK.


Thanks everyone for the insight.

Why would AK ever raise the turn and jam the river though? Like, I'm probably just folding my weaker aces to the turn raise, and I'm certainly folding AJ and AT on the river. And he loses to AQ, AA and QQ, all of which I have much more than him. Seems insanely thin to take that line for value with AK, but I guess you never know at these stakes. Shitregs gonna shitreg.

For anyone curious, I fully timebanked thinking I probably should fold but ended up calling for the reasons stated in my first post.

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44. What?? I guess he basically just likes setmining this spot but maybe realises the implied odds aren't actually there so he needs to bluff sometimes? Either that or he's just clicking buttons and not actually thinking at all.


maybe he saw your turn size as weak? like an A5s that can be bluffed. If he picked up a gutshot on the turn it wouldn't be bad to turn it into a bluff, but i think as it is he should have just folded.


Yeah and to be fair to him, I probably would have folded everything except the top of my range so maybe it wasn't too terrible. The turn raise bluff probably makes more sense with a hand like KJ though, where he at least has a gutshot and blocks AK and AJ. Even then, once I've callled the turn raise I'm not sure the overbet jam is ever good at 5nl where people can't fold.

edit: running it through GTOw by giving it an alternative preflop that actually makes sense, i.e. him opening SB and me 3betting then him calling, it actually is check/calling then check/raising some of the time with 88, A8, double gutters (JTs, T9s), some random other hands that picked up a turn FD (Ax, K7), and even a tiny amount with 44 and 55! So maybe villain wasn't far off a decent line after all 😀 Although, it looks like it doesn't jam the river with any of those bluffs except J T for some reason. Gives up with all the others and check/folds.


He’s saying he has 88 or maybe AQ, and all draws bricked, so I’m not folding.


The moment he calls pre to the first raise mark him as a fish (nobody should have a SB calling range @ 5nl apart from maybe particularly good players who aren't usually playing 5nl). Then when he calls the squeeze upgrade him to a probable calling station. We got two reasonable tells before the flop subject to more info. When we hit decent value against stations that might overplay weaker value (or just go nuts like this hand) - just go for it. I'd raise turn to make sure that range and all possible draws call.

After showdown he gets an aggro tag because they're even more profitable than stations sometimes, and we let them hang themeselves ad infinitum

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