Near punt or good jam?

Near punt or good jam?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 158 BB (VPIP: 15.15, PFR: 12.31, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 67)
SB: 76.5 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 38)
Hero (BB): 229 BB
UTG: 37 BB (VPIP: 12.70, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
MP: 157 BB (VPIP: 25.37, PFR: 23.88, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 67)
CO: 96 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold

Flop: (14 BB, 2 players) K 9 A
Hero bets 7 BB, CO raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 40 BB, Hero raises to 209 BB and is all-in, CO calls 36 BB and is all-in

River: (194 BB, 2 players) J

Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 50%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
CO shows Q A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 50%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero wins 92.5 BB
CO wins 92 BB

Reads on Villain: had played less than 10 hands with them but they were VPIPing 100% and had tried bluffing me with J high on a wet river on a previous hand.

Correct me if I am wrong, but given this I should not be going anywhere after the flop raise, but my turn jam should maybe have been a fold or call?

Many thanks in advance!

24 June 2024 at 11:33 AM
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Squeeze bigger preflop.

This is usually a strong line and I would lean towards folding on the turn.

Don't post the result next time.


Seems like the correct line vs a correctly labelled aggro/whale opponent. Against an unknown I'd default to folding the turn psb. That's usually a tell. This whale probably does think they are at the top of their range though, so it does boil down to your read.

I'd also squeeze higher to 10bb and dare them to call with all their crap at a lower SPR


Call raise is fine but I agree with slyless, turn sizing should lean us towards fold.


by Ceres k

Seems like the correct line vs a correctly labelled aggro/whale opponent. Against an unknown I'd default to folding the turn psb. That's usually a tell. This whale probably does think they are at the top of their range though, so it does boil down to your read.

Can we just rip it OTF then?


I'd rather keep him on the line and not iso to the top of his range. We win more vs aggro by letting them do the hanging.

At least that's my approach. I think at micros we win the most vs this player type than maybe all player types besides whale, although I haven't done any proper research. they're a type of whale, but not always full whale, because even aggros know when the game is up, and there's a chance he shuts down when we 3b.


Your jam might be 209 BB but given they only have 36 BB left if you are going to call turn you might as well jam. And given your description the only play vs this V.


by Ceres k

I'd rather keep him on the line and not iso to the top of his range. We win more vs aggro by letting them do the hanging.

At least that's my approach. I think at micros we win the most vs this player type than maybe all player types besides whale, although I haven't done any proper research. they're a type of whale, but not always full whale, because even aggros know when the game is up, and there's a chance he shuts down when we 3b.

No sample though. So aggro part I can’t get behind (and if we were using his as true->this one is passive). Vs a generic whale, I think they are so inelastic that top of range isn’t a concept to them


I aggree with ceres. If villain show down a aggro bluff before we cant fold here i think, but i would not raise because he can have here very random stuff because wales dont play rational ranges he can have some 9x or some air backdoor etc. s vs this hands a raise would be terrible.
If villain is more passive type of fish it is very close but would tend to fold if he is on the nitty side like low vpip pfr and overall aggression and call vs a bit looser fish because they could have same hand or overvalue even hands like AT AJ (this is not the case with tight fish so be carefull)

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