is AQo (no club) a better call than QQ here?

is AQo (no club) a better call than QQ here?

Ignition - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 111.08 BB
CO: 88.84 BB
BTN: 63.32 BB
SB: 123.04 BB
Hero (BB): 391.8 BB
UTG: 94.6 BB
UTG+1: 108.72 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Flop: (26.4 BB, 2 players) 2 8 6
Hero bets 12.56 BB, MP calls 12.56 BB

Turn: (51.52 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 24.48 BB, MP calls 24.48 BB

River: (100.48 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, MP bets 61.04 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Notes: Is a turn value bet good here? Really think it's just a sigh call on river as we won't be checking AK enough and rarely have any other Kx. I also don't think players have many 8x that are filtered through pre flop and turn. value seems like AK+, too. What we thinking y'all?

29 July 2024 at 05:50 AM
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Flop range bet nice simplification. Turn seems also like a good bet i think simplifing again to a very high freq bet 50% makes sense on the K. Your QQ in particular is nice because you block kx fd that he call on flop. River you could value shove yourself and get JJ TT 99 etc into a shitty spot. If we check call i think our eq trops pretty hard because i dont see enough bluffs in villains range here most players will check back Ax flushdraws i expect also the solver to go pretty thin for value on river rather then to check call (loosing ev vs JJ etc )


ye interesting looks like QQ almost pure jamming rivers in Wizard. combos with Qc in them check around half of the time to give HJ rope but can probably node lock assumption that most aren't bluffing club draws enough and just revert to jamming all QQ pure


with the caveat /warning out of the way that I'm still not a winning player at Nl2/NL5 I play this differently, I play pre flop and flop same as OP ( I like the flop c-bet by the way, also I'm not sure what range I can put MP villain on but I'm thinking the top of his range has maybe big Broadway pairs hence it might be a good battle for the pot.
the turn I'm wanting to slow down and I don't like my turn card of king here. I don't like acting first OOP on the turn street and I like my hand alot less on this street where more money is at stake on these later streets. I check the turn and see how things proceed from there. As played I fold on river.


by ringring088 k

combos with Qc in them check around half of the time to give HJ rope but can probably node lock assumption that most aren't bluffing club draws enough and just revert to jamming all QQ pure

I assume you mean without Qc and not with?

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